audio snap/tempo map question

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2014/04/26 10:12:06 (permalink)

audio snap/tempo map question

I'm having some issues with this stuff, and not sure I understand it correctly. When I edit the tempo map in an audiosnap enabled track, I don't seem to get the beats and measures to ever start at 1:1, often starting less than that as well as far greater, such as 0:4, and 19:3. Also one beat marker will be anchored to a transient and can't be moved. I gather that I am supposed to edit the map to match whole or half note boundaries on the proper transients, in preparation for audio quantize, and seems intuitive it should start with 1.

I've tried a number of things, none really help me edit the map the way I'm trying to, so perhaps I need to take a step back and try to understand where the clips tempo map comes from and what I need to do with it.

Any knowledgeable commentary on this subject most appreciated...

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    Re: audio snap/tempo map question 2014/04/26 10:20:08 (permalink)


    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: audio snap/tempo map question 2014/04/26 20:10:23 (permalink)
    Maybe if I simplified the question to this it would be more clear: how do you get the beat markers in a clips internal tempo map to begin with 1:1? Or are they not supposed to?

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    Re: audio snap/tempo map question 2014/04/26 20:50:38 (permalink)
    Apologies for my completely off topic attempt at helping. :-(
    I don't use Audio Snap much. I leave you in better hands.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: audio snap/tempo map question 2014/04/26 22:45:46 (permalink)
    Ah, no worries, thanks for responding. I thought I had it figured out, but difficulty editing the map has stumped me. Fortunately there seems to be about five different ways to do this, just have people waiting on me to get these tracks cleaned up. Guess I know how I'll spend today.

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    Re: audio snap/tempo map question 2014/04/27 02:14:42 (permalink)
    Well, this is the result of Sonar retaining the original time stamp from the track out of which the clip was selected and copied.  If you cut it instead of copying, no problem. Or if you export/import the audio, or bounce to clip, OK, no problem.
     
    But spending a day figuring this out is a problem while people were waiting for me to clean up a bunch of scratch tracks to build their session off of.  And it is a programming error, as a clip copied and pasted elsewhere is no longer in the same musical context and could never be assumed to have the same placement in time. Sonar is oddly the richest, most functional DAW out there while at the same time always seeming to be as buggy as a roach motel at every turn.
     
    I suppose I have learned to think of it as heavily nuanced, as once I have figured out exactly how it does work, it usually does that very consistently and well. And as obtuse as it first appears, Audiosnap is pretty cool. C'est la vie...

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    Re: audio snap/tempo map question 2014/04/27 02:14:43 (permalink)
    Well, this is the result of Sonar retaining the original time stamp from the track out of which the clip was selected and copied.  If you cut it instead of copying, no problem. Or if you export/import the audio, or bounce to clip, OK, no problem.
     
    I think this is a Sonar bug. Seems anything pasted somewhere else is in a different musical context and shouldn't be referring to the original like that.
     
     
    post edited by Michael Five - 2014/04/27 04:11:18

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    Re: audio snap/tempo map question 2014/04/27 08:44:06 (permalink)
    Broadcast wav?

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