pierox2000
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automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
Hello! I'm editing a drum recording in a drum folder, with 8 mono tracks. I'm having a problem using the function automatic crossfade: After I ajust it to the overlapping area I want, as soon as I move on to the next place to edit, the previous crossfade disappears from several clips, or remains only in one of the two overlapped, and I need to redo it. This is getting really annoying, noticing that I have 18 songs with full drum tracks to edit. What is the matter? I have Sonar 5.2 and an Athon 64 cpu with 1Mb RAM, with a ECHO LAyla 24/96. Somebody help me! please!
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dcastle
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/09 07:54:30
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Greetings piero, Welcome to the forum! Your problem sure sounds unusual. I'm assuming these are audio tracks that you are overlapping. I do this all the time without any problems. Maybe you can give us a more detailed description of what you are doing when this occurs. BTW, I hope it's not 1Mb. Regards, David
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pierox2000
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/09 15:03:14
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Thanks, David, for the post. I'm posting here in the forum exactly because I didn't come to an answer in the web... As it seems, nobody had this problem I'm dealing with before... but it exists, and I'll try, with my so-so english, to meake a more accurate description: I'm overlapping audio tracks. When I bring one over another, with the X option activated, they overlap and automatic crossfades appear as crossing curves in the screen. When I proceed doing the same thing on the rest of the edition overlaps, SOMETIMES (not all the time) the "crossing curves" (fade-in/fade-out - crossfade) that I just did disappear and a single curve takes place, as if I didn't overlap them two, but rather fade-out or fade-in a single track. Seems to be a Sonar bug, rather then a system/soundcard problem. Any help will be highly appreciated... BTW, it's 1MB... thanks again, piero
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/09 16:05:10
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I've never seen crossfades as being very stable. What I'd do is slice the tracks where I want or slip edit them.
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dcastle
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/10 08:52:16
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Hi Piero, When I proceed doing the same thing on the rest of the edition overlaps, SOMETIMES (not all the time) the "crossing curves" (fade-in/fade-out - crossfade) that I just did disappear and a single curve takes place, as if I didn't overlap them two It's hard to understand exactly what you're doing—is there anyway you could post a screen shot somewhere and link to it in a message. Just use ALT-PrtScn and open Windows Paint then Ctrl-V to paste the screen capture. Then you can select a portion that shows the problem and used Edit-->Copy to… example.bmp and then finally open example.bmp and save as GIF. Then upload this to one of the free image hosting services and use the image button to insert a link in your response. Sorry to be so wordy if you already knew this, but maybe it can be a help to someone else. But, it sounds like you end up overlapping an entire clip, which is going to be weird. I use automatic crossfade for the start and end of clips—where I push one clip over another on the same track—all the time with very stable and repeatable behaivor. Make sure you are slip editing out the parts you really don't want and are only using crossfades to make the edges of the clips inaudible. Regards, David
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/10 13:56:10
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I'm editing a drum recording in a drum folder, with 8 mono tracks. I'm having a problem using the function automatic crossfade: After I ajust it to the overlapping area I want, as soon as I move on to the next place to edit, the previous crossfade disappears from several clips, or remains only in one of the two overlapped, and I need to redo it. I’ve experience this issue as well and it was a track folder for 8 tracks of drums. My observation was that it was a bug when using the folder pane to slide all the tracks in the folder at once to crossfade. Another variable would be some of the tracks in the folder were set to show lanes while others were not. This does not always occur, just in some of my projects, when reopening them, the crossfades would not be there anymore on some of the tracks in the folder. This is a tough one to wrap your head around but beware that when you made the crossfade, you may have been zoomed in close for accuracy and the crossfade is not visible unless you are zoomed in that close again. That has bit me in the azz as well. So zoom in and make sure the fades aren’t hiding! However, I still think there is a bug in there somewhere…as they do really disappear at times. Marco
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dcastle
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/10 17:09:53
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After I ajust it to the overlapping area I want, as soon as I move on to the next place to edit, the previous crossfade disappears from several clips, or remains only in one of the two overlapped, and I need to redo it. In re-reading this I wonder if you are doing more than just using autocrossfade to cover up the edges of overlapped clips. I don't think you should rely on an automatic tool to do fade-ins or fade-outs, especially when it is so easy to grab the handles and do it exactly like you want manually. Regards, David
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pierox2000
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/19 11:42:23
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2006/07/19 13:21:00
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Greetings Piero, Now that's just plane weird. I do this all the time, and I've never seen this behavior. I think it's time for a call to cakewalk support. They are very helpful, in fact the head of research & development often monitors and posts on this forum. Regards, David
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2007/01/07 21:11:29
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I'm having the exact same problem here, also editing multiple drum tracks in a folder. The crossfades will randomly dissappear at times. And not always on all tracks. It's just plain weird. I was hoping the update would address it, but alas, the problem still exists. Has anyone got any solutions? Or do I just have to live with this? Thanks. Jeremy
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RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2007/02/23 03:03:22
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ORIGINAL: pierox2000 Hello! I'm editing a drum recording in a drum folder, with 8 mono tracks. I'm having a problem using the function automatic crossfade: After I ajust it to the overlapping area I want, as soon as I move on to the next place to edit, the previous crossfade disappears from several clips, or remains only in one of the two overlapped, and I need to redo it. This is getting really annoying, noticing that I have 18 songs with full drum tracks to edit. What is the matter? I have Sonar 5.2 and an Athon 64 cpu with 1Mb RAM, with a ECHO LAyla 24/96. Somebody help me! please! I am having the exact same behaviour using track folder edits: I have Sonar 5.2and I am currently comping 11 mono tracks of drums and F#@$%#!!! previous edits change some tracks have longer fades or no fades or change fade type!! (linear, slow or fast) but I have found a quick fix... Start at the beginning of your project and do your first fade, then just after your fade in maybe a few ticks...split the tracks...... when you do your next fades the previous one will not be affected, although where you have previously split, sometimes fades can appear. This is only a workaround for now...but helps, some official words might be appreciated......
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Re: RE: automatic crossfades weird behavior!!!
2011/07/19 12:38:50
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I've always had this same problem with Sonar. I thought version X1 would fix it, but no such luck. The workaround I recommend is shift selecting all of the clips on one side that you want to crossfade (using a selection rectangle if you want to go quicker) and then dragging the edge of one of the clips (NOT the track folder) over the other set. You won't have any problems if you stick to this method. Stay away from the track folder clips! Can't believe this hasn't been fixed yet. I've never seen crossfades as being very stable. What I'd do is slice the tracks where I want or slip edit them. I believe that's what we're talking about.
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