awesome metering solution

www.izotope.com/insight

also to be released around the same time (mid-nov): www.izotope.com/trash2

It's my understanding that the "Insight" metering tools are the same ones that are available in the advanced version of Ozone 5. If that's the case, I can easily see a introductory price tag around $349.00 USD (that's a guess btw). I'm curious about it and am looking forward to its release, although I do fine with what I currently have. 

I dig the water fall display.

I don't have any intention of buying an Ozone... but I could see myself buying a water fall display.



best regards,
mike

I would certainly hope they would not try to get $349.00 out of it...

Looks like Audiomidi has the entire Ozone 5 advanced package on sale for $449.00. Izotope has said advanced owners will receive the new metering system free.

http://www.audiomidi.com/...Advanced/dp/B007X0BVGC

Kind regards,
Rick

tbosco


I really like the Ozone product..it seems to sever me very well.

Ouch!  I was considering buying O5 Advanced during the audiomidi sale, but I didn't realize that it was so dangerous.    (j/k)

cryophonik

tbosco


I really like the Ozone product..it seems to sever me very well.

Ouch!  I was considering buying O5 Advanced during the audiomidi sale, but I didn't realize that it was so dangerous.    (j/k)

Everybody thinks it.


cryophoniksezit.

Just got it downloaded. Will install later.


Looks like AudioDeluxe has it for $399.00 but has a make-an-offer button. They also have the Ozone 5 Advanced Upgrade for $399.00 which also has a make-an-offer button... Get'em while you can.

Great Deal backwoods!

Smash away my friend.

I think the price tag is a bit steep as well. It seems to me that Izotope prices things at least $100 more than they should be. 

I'd say Ozone 5 and Iris were pretty fair though..

Maybe that's what makes it "Advanced". If you can figure out what it's telling you, you can consider yourself "advanced".

I am reminded of the old story about the guy selling rat turds and calling them "smart pills". When asked if they really worked, he replied "well, no one's ever come back for more!".

Yes, there seems to be something kooky with the stereo field analyzer in Sonar. It has my wav hard panned to the left also.

The weird part: after finding this oput the other day I tried in Project5 v2 and when placed as an insert a track it would again have the left panned behaviour and would not change to reflect panning. But when used on the 2bus it reacted as expected. Something weird going on here- maybe just in Sonar, I will try it on mny other DAWs tomorrow but I have to go out drinking now :)

It's a hell of a lot more helpful than a normal specturm anaysis ala VoxengoSpan though- I'm actually damn inpressed.


edit: after quick test- In Sonar: doesn't work in track or bus, Nuendo: works inbus but not in track, Studio One: bus but not track, P5v2: bus but not track . No audio crackles though. win8 64bit, 16gig

It's a hell of a lot more helpful than a normal specturm anaysis ala VoxengoSpan though- I'm actually damn inpressed.

Could you elaborate? I'm interested in this product, but I hardly ever look at phase correlation meters or vectorscopes except as diagnostic aids when there's something wonky going on. SPAN is pretty much all I need. Maybe I'm missing out on something cool?


One metering tool that I do use, and wish I had as a separate plugin, is the "critical band" view of Ozone's spectral display module. Presumably Insight would provide that, alleviating the need to insert Ozone just for the metering.


But to me, the most intriguing tool Insight offers is the loudness history feature. I use Adobe Audition for that now, and sometimes automate the mastering limiter's threshold to tweak overly-loud or too-quiet passages after examining the waveform and selecting individual sections for analysis in Audition. Being able to write automation based on loudness history would be a great convenience.

At the end of the day, however, I'll need to see some pretty compelling arguments before spending $400 on metering!

I received an answer from Izotope support and they were not able to reproduce the crackling on a system such as mine but his guess is that it may be graphics card related in that it may be eating away some the CPU cycles. He suggested that I try to reduce the number of meters running concurrently to see it that helps.

His reply as to the stereo field hard panning left is as follows:

"In regards to the stereo vectorscope issue, this has to do with the way Sonar X2 is channelizing the plugin. To fix this issue, go to the Insight options page, and under the I/O tab, set both drop-down menus in here to 'SMPTE'. You may want to save this as a preset for use in future projects that use Insight." 

This fixed my stereo vectorscope issue and it works fine now.

I tried his suggestion on the crackles and it works but intermittently. I think I just need to spend some more time with it and all will be well. As the complexity goes up so does the learning curve...

@Bit - Don't know if you have tried the demo for Ozone 5 advanced but the fact that you can insert individual modules vs. the channel strip approach really is the berries and AudioDeluxe has some great upgrade prices for folks that already own Ozone 1-4.

Kind regards,
Rick

No, I never demoed Advanced. Given that the price would probably preclude ever owning it, I prefer not to know what I'm missing. It just feeds the G.A.S.

I did demo O5 when it came out, but decided that the new intelligent release algorithm wasn't a compelling reason to justify the upgrade. Plus, I'm enjoying the greater tweakability of Pro-L these days and use it instead of Ozone about 50% of the time.

Too bad the meters aren't offered a la carte.

Great meter functionallity but I’m really surpriced that iZotope can't build and programed the GUI correctly?

No GPU or CUDA support at all? No use of the GPU on the graphic card? They use only the CPU on the whole GUI-interface? This plugin GUI really HOG the CPU, 10-30%. Even worse if you rezize it so you can see it on 1920X 1080 screen.
 
Not very helpful at all. I though iZotope Advance meters was bad coded and a CPU-hog but Insight is even worse then that?
The plugins use Windows XP behaviour. What they need to do is to direct all GUI-interface to use the GPU on the graphic card instead.  Then this product would be 10 of 10. As for now, I wouldn’t buy it.