bennisixx
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because I cant get enough
does anyone know a good source of complete info on acoustic treatment and the science and theory behind it?
I am looking at some textbooks and wanted to know if anyone knows of on line classes or good books for
info
Im not talking building a room from scratch stuff but acoustic treatment why this is placed here etc
really like figuring out this stuff and cant find much on it as a science
thanks if any can help
ben
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Re:because I cant get enough
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Re:because I cant get enough
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Try Google Books. A search for acoustic soulutions and acoustic treatment returned loadsa results.
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/17 08:47:28
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I agree that Ethan Whiner's web site is a great resource of street level real life info. Read everything on that site. If you want a starter book on basic room design try this: http://www.amazon.com/Sou...-Everest/dp/0070213828  It doesn't focus on acoustic treatment... it starts with stuff more basic than that. This book and Ethan's website will keep you busy for a while. best, mike
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/17 10:44:22
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I have that book, Mike. Hated it.
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/17 11:18:13
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thanks all I have a decent grasp of it all, but want to know more
thanks again ben
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/17 11:22:20
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$16.95 and hate are a wild combination.
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/17 20:37:35
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Here's some stuff sitting on my bookshelf that I find invaluable. Sorry for the lack of links, but I'm lazy<G>!
- Philip Newell - Project Studios: A More Professional Approach, Recording Spaces, Recording Studio Design, Studio Monitor Design
These just might be the best current books on the topic of studio design. I can't believe one person had time to learn all that stuff and write about it. And do read the first section of the project studios book, where he describes his journey to the wild wild west of the recording industry, and a seminal album he ended up working on. Just goes to show that even Philip can't see into the future.
- Jeff Cooper - Building A Recording Studio
OK, it's a little dated, but most of the information is still valid. And even though RFZ(tm) has lost some favor, his description is still accurage!
- Phillip Giddings - Audio Systems Design and Installation
No acoustics, but everything else you need is here!
- Glen Ballou - Handbook for Sound Engineers, Third Edition
Everything, and everything in tremendous depth! This is the encyclopedia approach, so there is a wide range of writing ability represented. Even so, I'd have to say that the worst chapters are still really good, they just might require a bit more work to understand. The list of authors IS a who's who. Sadly one of my favorite chapters - mixer design - is no longer written by the original author, and I miss it. You'll likely end up with multiple editions of this one. The chapters on small room acoustics in the current edition are stellar.
- John M. Eargle - Music, Sound, and Technology (and everything else he ever wrote!)
The man knew audio! And he knew how to teach. Scary combination. Everyone should read all his books!
- Don Davis & Eugene Patronis - Sound System Engineering, Third Edition
Actually, I like the first and third editions, two very different approaches to the topics! You'll need to spend some time reading these, but, they are excellent!
- Martin Colloms - High Performance Loudspeakers
- Trevor J. Cox & Peter D'Antonio - Acoustic Absorbers and Diffusers
- Rod Gervais - Home Recording Studio: Build it Like The Pros
I kinda wish he'd gone into more detail on every topic, but it's still a good book, and one of the few that really covers everything, even if you'll need a little more info in some cases.
- F. Alton Everest - Master Handbook of Acoustics
I find his other books to be less useful, but this one has a great deal of information, and it's accessible.
- Barry Blesser - Spaces Speak, Are You Listening
First goggle the author, then you'll want the book<G>!
- Michael Rettinger - Studio Acoustics
One of the real masters, the book is old, but still relevant.
- Harry Olson - Music, Sound, and Engineering
Harry, nuff said.
- Leo Beranek - Acoustics
Leo, nuff said again!
All of these, except Rettinger, should still be in print.
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Re:because I cant get enough
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That's a pretty extensive library you've got, Bill. If the OP went out and bought them all, it'd set him back the price of the Vienna Symphonic Library!
To the OP: if you don't have hundreds to spend on multiple books, if you can only afford one today, then the "Master Handbook of Acoustics" by F. Alton Everest is the one to have.
Rod Gervais' book is recommended if you're going to build a studio from scratch. Rod is also a building contractor, so he brings a unique combination of backgrounds to the topic. For example, nobody else addresses things like how to build a slab for your structure that will reduce the conduction of rumble from traffic.
The Ballou book is great to have around for when you're looking for something to read for 10 minutes at a time. It's really a collection of articles, every one of them a curious geek's delight. Some of the articles took me into subjects I might not have otherwise read about, such as sound systems for theaters.
I would also suggest cruising used books on Amazon. As Bill notes above, books on acoustics don't become obsolete as fast as most recording-related references. The physics are the same today as they were in 1965.
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/18 17:56:23
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wst-after that Id harldly call you lazy
bit-yeah I am looking at the one by everest-
not going to build a new room and I am really happy with my treatment in my current room
just want to understand why it works I guess.....
once again thank you all---ben
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/19 03:40:31
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You'll find loads more information and some great links here
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Re:because I cant get enough
2009/10/19 15:14:30
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Hi Ben, really like figuring out this stuff and cant find much on it as a science thanks all I have a decent grasp of it all, but want to know more just want to understand why it works I guess..... If that's really true, and you really "can't get enough," then you should study acoustics. I'm not familiar with Leo Beranek's book, but am familiar with and recommend: Morse and Ingard. Theoretical Acoustics. Classical treatment of almost everything you need to know. It's like the "Morse and Feshbach" of acoustics (same Morse). Allan Pierce. Acoustics: An Introduction to Its Physical Principles and Applications. A little more applications-oriented that the former. Somewhat dense in derivations as if publishers wanted to save space. Kinsler. Fundamentals of Acoustics. Very practical. Regards, Dave Clark
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