building a home studio

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2008/10/14 18:11:55 (permalink)

building a home studio

looking for some expert advice on building a home studio (so both soundproofing and acoustic treatment). i just bought a house with an unfinished basement/garage. not including the stairway to the basement, the area is 40' long by 22' wide. i am thinking the garage should be about 21' deep which leaves me a space about 18'x22' to work with. not the biggest room ever but better than nothing.

the only issue is that the A/C unit is going to be dead center in the rear area (right by the stairs at the rear of the house) and the main duct (perhaps 7', 7 1/2' off the floor) comes out into the main area about 3 feet or so before going up into the trusses below the main house. the outside walls are cinder block and everything is sealed - no openings like in some basements. i'll try to get some pictures later but i don't have a camera other than my cell phone at the moment.

so the first step is to build a "soundproof" room. i know that in theory each wall, ceiling and floor should have an air gap (with the floor obviously supported by some dampened material) between any other wall but that's where my knowledge ends =) any help is appreciated. also i definitely want to ventilate the room but it will be next to the main unit... whatever i can do to minimize that noise would also be helpful.

thanks in advance!

- jack the ex-cynic
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    The_7th_Samurai
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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/14 18:53:37 (permalink)
    Hey Jack,

    Here's a link to some pics of the studio I recently constructed in my home:

    http://www.vsplanet.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=44097&Number=408842#Post408842

    Bottom line - took a long, long time to build and there were a myriad of issues that I encountered, some as a result of ignorance, some due to poor planning and others just 'cause that's what happens when you do this kind of thing. In the end, I learned a lot about sound (pressure, dampening, materials, etc) and will certainly be better equiped the next time around (which hopefully is not too soon). The heavy/limp-mass rule is definitely one to follow, as is the variance in air pressures between walls as sound travels best when it is subject to only one pressure level. As such, the more air-tight the better but you might want to consider A/C options as it gets hot and stuffy rather quickly in an air-tight room, and even moreso in an airtight vocal booth.

    I did the room inside a room concept with a floating floor, basically. First thing I did was cut the concrete slab all along the perimeter of the room (not something your wife would likely approve of as the concrete dust is brutal). I then vapour-barriered the floor to deal with moisture issues. Next laid a cheap carpet over the concrete slab and installed Dri-core sub-floor over that. Laminate flooring over a thick underpad was the final floor covering but I did add extra padding under the drum kit.

    I filled the exisiting room walls with soundblock insulation, vapour barrier, a layer of 5/8" gyproc, resilient channel strips over that and another 5/8" layer of gyproc. Left about a 3 to 4 inch gap between the existing walls and then did the staggered stud wall application with 2x6 plates and 2x4 stringers in the room inside the room walls and ceiling. All plates and stringers were fastened with 4" screws and every joint was connected with sill gasket foam in between. 3 more layers of 5/8" gyproc, soundblock insulation, vapour barrier and resilient channel on the inside room walls and used PL400 adhesive on the outside of the wall between the gyproc and studs. All plugs, switches and outlets were installed with sealed plastic boxes and the vapour barrier and any conceivable cracks were applied and filled with acoustic calking. As I mentioned previously, a sound wave has a difficult time maintaining it's amplitude when travelling through 2 or more air spaces with varying degrees of pressure. As such, making things air-tight is a big priority.

    I used a knock-down stucco finish on the last drywall layer which offers meager sound diffusion in and of itself (Home Depot). It has a 3-door entrance system to gain access to the room with rubber gasket as a door seal. Some of the biggest issues I had to deal with were an outside window and the existing HVAC system as you have touched on in your post (which is basically a 2-way noise conduit). Air conditioning mini-split systems at first appear ideal for studios as all of the noisy stuff is installed outdoors and the actual cooling element is on the inside. However they don't bring in any fresh air and are a bit on the pricey side.

    Incidentally, I have no heater in the studio. It's so well insulated that during times when the door is open, the warm air remains long enough to keep things comfortable. It's also a great bomb shelter. Try to anticipate as much of your wiring needs ahead of time as possible and consider putting in a few 'forget-me-nots' (pvc pipe from the control station to the booth within the walls just in case you miss something). Lots more things to consider but I'm on my way out to vote right now (picking a new Prime Monster today here in the GWN).

    Anyway, good luck with your new studio. I'm sure you'll get lots of other suggestions and advice. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions about what I've tried to describe above.

    Cheers,

    7thSAM
    post edited by The_7th_Samurai - 2008/10/14 19:01:52
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    jacktheexcynic
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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/14 21:26:08 (permalink)
    thanks 7thSAM, i will PM you later when i get some more concrete plans. nice pics - out of curiosity, what were the inside dimensions when you were done?

    - jack the ex-cynic
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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/14 21:42:04 (permalink)
    Here's a pretty good guide to building a home studio at a high level:

    http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/268359-started-building-my-small-studio.html

    And it's something that you can abuse yourself to while learning something at the same time. If you go through that thread you'll at least learn a lot of questions that you should be asking, if not any answers, and probably some answers as well. It's obviously higher end than what you are looking for, but it's probably good to see the full bore thing and then decide what you would leave out.

    Just seeing the racks of outboard gear is enough to make a grown man weap.
    post edited by droddey - 2008/10/14 21:57:44

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    jacktheexcynic
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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/14 21:57:31 (permalink)
    thanks dean, i'm checking out the thread now. looks like this is a major undertaking - although i did expect that. =)

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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/15 10:38:38 (permalink)
    "out of curiosity, what were the inside dimensions when you were done?"

    Roughly 10' x 10' - Small but Mighty!

    Keep in mind there are very few right angles as it's an odd shape (most of the corners of the originally square room have been sheered off.........which helps somewhat in terms of sound diffusion). The only part of the studio I've actually "treated" with auralex is the vocal booth.
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    jacktheexcynic
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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/15 17:38:38 (permalink)
    ok cool. i was assuming that right angles wouldn't be the best approach but wasn't sure how to maximize space without a rectangle... any recommendations for room shape?

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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/15 18:44:18 (permalink)
    In terms of room shape and design, there are no hard and fast rules..........other than avoiding parallel walls. They can cause standing waves and resonance problems. While the materials of your walls come into play to a degree as well (and yes - drywall or gypsum vibrates at a certain frequency when it's absorbtion coefficient is surpassed), resonance can result in some frequencies being louder or quieter as you move around the room. Avoid carpet on the walls as carpet tends to dampen higher frequencies but not low frequencies which can cause acoustic problems. The gear you put in your studio will also affect the overall dampening of the room and you'll likely find a few mystery rattles and vibrations at certain frequencies when you get everything set-up. Once you've adressed the sound-proofing, rattle & hum factors, you can move to sound treatment. Too much treatment can sound unaturally dry as there should be a nominal amount of natural ambience. It can get fairly complex (way beyond my level of knowledge) and there's apparently equipment that can help to determine what treatment is required and where but I don't know much about it myself.

    Smaller studios such as mine tend to have more acoustic issues to deal with so you are already ahead of the game with the size of the room you have to work with. High ceilings also help to isolate bass frequencies better. For me, the room size and shape I ended up with were to a large degree a result of existing ducts and other room protrusions that I had to build around. Oh yes, 60-cycle hum. Ground loops and florescent lights are like audio demons so make sure you run a completely independent circuit to the room (i.e. - don't add to or mix in two circuits like I did as you'll be fighting hum all the time).
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    jacktheexcynic
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    RE: building a home studio 2008/10/15 20:16:31 (permalink)
    thanks again. the ceiling is relatively high (garage after all) so that should help as well. i may attempt a roughly trapezoidal shape with a few degrees off on each wall. the place i work at has a studio (they do just about everything in house, it's pretty amazing actually) and i noticed they not only angled the walls horizontally but vertically as well. and of course it's a nice big space

    - jack the ex-cynic
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