cakewalk crashing

Now I'm really pissed. Cakewalk crashed an a days work is gone. The audio files is nowhere to be found. What the hell? Do cakewalk wipe out the days work while crashing? Is that a new future?

Regardless of whether Sonar or any other application on my computer crashed, I always have alternate versions saved as I progress through working on something.  If I had a crash on a song I was working on I'd probably never lose more than 30 mins max worth of effort because I use Save As, and have a ver 1a, ver1b, ver1c of the song as I progress through updates to the piece.
 
This is much more for the ability to step back in the evolution of the song than anything else.  If I happened to have taken a wrong turn, I can always go back to some point in time of the development of the piece and start fresh from the fork in the road where I took a wrong turn.
 
I suggest that anyone consider having revision saves as they progress.  It's just practical.

mettelus
Ouch, sorry to hear that. Did you create the project as a new file with no name? Also, did you have the wav files open in another editor at the time?
 
A quick check for things.... in Windows Explorer, search drives for "*.wav" and sort the list by date created (click the top of the column until you see a triangle apex down). SONAR writes audio directly to disk, so the wav files should be there (in the Global Audio folder if no project name was made on creation). You can try similarly with "*.cwp" (MIDI data and FX would be saved in the cwp file).
 
FWIW, it has been noted that the number of undos kept in undo history will create project overhead, so saving a project often is recommended. Also, you need to actually have an undo in that history to limit the number of undos that SONAR remembers. After making a change to a project, go to "Edit->History..." and change that number at the bottom to something reasonable (mine is set to 10). Having SONAR remember 120 undos (IIRC that is the default), is just asking for trouble. Saving frequently will reset this history, and manually entering a reasonable number will prevent RAM usage on undos (that setting is global, so doing it once will carry forward into all projects, but again the history is only accessible if a change has been made to a project (and can close the project without saving afterwards)).

This is a project I've been working on for some time. All older wav files are in the audio folder. Just the ones i recorded today is gone. Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.

I cant say I've seen this... unless I refused to save at all during the day.
I save once or twice every 15 minutes or so.

I will look further when i come back home tonight. All the takes were bounced to implement Melodyne edit. So there should be several versions of each take i did go for. I really hope I dont have to record all over again.
 
What happened is that when sonar crashed i got this UAC message that Sonar had crashed, and then a message to close sonar. I really dont want to reproduce it to take screen shots, lol.
 
I'm also better now. i dont need to kill anyone anymore.

Jarsve
 
This is a project I've been working on for some time. All older wav files are in the audio folder. Just the ones i recorded today is gone. Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.

SONAR never deletes newly recorded audio in a project unless you intentionally close the project and cancel from the save prompt. i.e. if SONAR crashes after recording audio all the audio should be left intact in the project audio folder. If you never saved the project and its not per project audio, the wave files will be in the global audio folder.

The odd old aged...oddity mystery bug..."Missing files"....Yep seen that in a older x3 rendition I believe.
 
And others saying odd things happening yet are very hard to reproduce...
 
So many things of odd natures that should not happen...Happen...I Guess some one named Murphy put his laws of code into the machines...
 
Sorry bud, if it ain't in the folder, and  windows search for track name and number does not resolve, try to see what the file location is set to when you open the last session, in the preferences....if it has changed...You might find it in some way liken that?...or if auto save has a different folder choice and check that?
 
Also of remembered notes of past use..... I bumped into a tile with numbers on it up on the right side of the DAW...selecting the numbers changes the view of the track view, hides things, and or...another oddity may occur and some windows close or hide...Yet cannot be returned to view as nothing is hidden....So, clicking around to see what does what...That tile with lots of numbers on it, seems to do something in changing views, nd hiding tracks....go through those numbers...and see if your track appears again....
 
 
Just a thought...
 
Some times we hit the wrong hot keys by mistake...trying to stop the play or record....oops.
 
Best wishes!
Cheers.
 
 

Jarsve

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

Jarsve
 
This is a project I've been working on for some time. All older wav files are in the audio folder. Just the ones i recorded today is gone. Its really frustrating. recording guitar lead is hard, and starting all over makes me pissed off.

SONAR never deletes newly recorded audio in a project unless you intentionally close the project and cancel from the save prompt. i.e. if SONAR crashes after recording audio all the audio should be left intact in the project audio folder. If you never saved the project and its not per project audio, the wave files will be in the global audio folder.

I know. All projects have its own audio folder on my computer. I have tried to locate the files in Recuva by Piniform, but i dont think it works on SSDs with TRIM on. They are just gone. I dont know how...

Did you check the Global Audio folder (not the project audio folder) like Noel suggested??

The UAC message is concerning since I would assume that was a write error, but if you were bouncing takes that writes a new wav file - some should be there prior to the crash. Please just do a search for *.wav and sort by creation date. If that UAC error popped up overwriting the cwp file, it may truly be gone, but not sure with that.

The only write error I ever got (general program error) was resolved by bumping disk I/O buffers up to 512 under "Sync and Caching" (in advanced mode at the bottom) in the Preferences screen.

The UAC error is something to troubleshoot though. I am not sure what may have caused that.

pwalpwal
how are your hd buffers configured? if "for performance", the data was probably still in the buffer, and the crash stopped it from being flushed/written to disk

I dont think i have buffers on this SSD. If Sonar waits on writing down for several hours then that's the problem.