can we change volume to notes in piano roll?

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2011/06/16 22:03:51 (permalink)

can we change volume to notes in piano roll?

i know we can change the velocity of a note in piano roll.
but i wonder if is there a possibility to change also (in the same way of velocity) the volume of notes.
im using bfd2 but i dont want to change volume in bfd2 software.
 
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    Chappel
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/16 22:36:08 (permalink)
    You can use cc#7 (volume) in the controller pane.
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/16 23:38:18 (permalink)
    like this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=484f_WJPU78

    it doesnt work for me.. volume doesn't change.
    nothing happen .. its like i did nothing.
    midi drums works normally.

    btw i dont know why this video is so quick .. i never uploaded this video at this speed .. i uploaded it at normal sspeed what happen with youtube ? is it me or ?
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 00:07:24 (permalink)
    Does the Midi track you used have a channel selected as its output? If so, what channel?
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 00:24:31 (permalink)
    like here ? still not working :(
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-7sHsnJU8
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 00:39:21 (permalink)
    When you put the Midi channel on channel 1, can you still hear all the drums on that track? Not sure why you put the Midi track on channel 1 and CC#7 on channel 2 but it shouldn't make any difference.

    If the Midi track has an output channel assigned, the CC events will always go out on that channel. If the Midi track has None selected as the channel, the CC events will act on whatever channel they were inserted as.

    What channel are your drums on? Are they all on the same channel? Are different drums on different channels?
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 02:25:56 (permalink)
    yeah u right .. channel 2 was bad but channel 1 or 2 .. still doesnt work ...
    i tested something look at that now ..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViGdV0Qs3XA

    maybe it should help u more guys .. ty for trying to help me.
     
    btw after a while, youtube fix the speed of my video to the normal one. dunno why it take so long .. its new .. never had this problem with youtube before.
    post edited by PsychatoR - 2011/06/17 02:29:49
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 04:17:11 (permalink)
    If drums are on channel 1 and track is set to channel one, drums should respond to fader on miditrack.

    If it doesn't, BFD do not respond to CC#7.

    CC#7 affect all notes sounding, just remember that.

    Then how it's handled in Sonar when separate volume events are inserted, I'm not sure. If this is in conflict with volume envelopes I could not say.

    Changing velocity in drum notes also result in change of timber. So changing stuff on midi side might not the way to go I think if that is unacceptable.

    Volume+expression+velocity works together.
    CC#7+CC#11+velocity decides the final volume on notes.

    Since many instruments exist at the same moment on a audio drumtrack changing velocity might still be the least destructive way to go.

    If note is separate and no other hits on the same spot in time, volume envelope might fix it.
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 08:47:37 (permalink)
    I've been reading the BFD2 manual and it's really pretty vague about  the use of CC events with it. There is a function that shows what cc events it is receiving as well as a function to make it "learn" cc events.

    Maybe the simplest route would be to just use a volume envelope. You can do it in the Midi track, which may lead back to how BFD2 reacts to external cc events, or use it in the synth's audio track. Automation in the audio track is post-synth.
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 14:56:18 (permalink)
    resolved!! i found it :)))))))))

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3LHq2YjH_g
     
    ty guys :)
    post edited by PsychatoR - 2011/06/17 21:27:10
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 21:26:48 (permalink)
    just last question:  cc 7 volume default , is it 100?
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    Re:can we change volume to notes in piano roll? 2011/06/17 23:51:25 (permalink)
    just last question: cc 7 volume default , is it 100?

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