marcus3
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cant hear the bass on my stereo
ok so i mix song without useing eq i didnt know how im spose use eq on my sounds seeing as they came from my keyboard.
but anyways i mix my song but when i play back on my stero sounds little low and cant hear the bass under the guitar
so should i eq the highs for my bass and guitar??
when i use headphones i hear the bass..
im useing tascam 2488neo mix and master
appreciate it
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/08 19:53:59
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Got no real clue what you're talking about.... You should use reference monitors to mix... but if you don't have them you'll have to use the stereo. Mixing with headphones and stereo speakers puts you at a big disadvantage from the start..... those devices add artificial boost/cut to the sound in an attempt to "make it sound better"...or some such crap. You need to hear the truth when you mix and reference speakers are designed to give you that. Post the song on SOUNDCLICK and link to it in the SONGS forum. we can hear it and give you some advice... other than that... no can do.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2010/10/08 19:56:14
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/08 19:58:09
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i have studio monitors..but ok i do dat hold on
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/08 20:24:19
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 00:35:00
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Check your stereo.
Plenty of bass on that track.....in fact....quite boomy.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 01:16:18
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ok what i need check??
yea it what the artist want
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 05:19:35
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Chuck it up on the Songs forum, mate. You'll get more advice there.
That bass sounds pretty low (in terms of frequency). Pretty much pointless for a bass line because most listener's playback systems can't play bass that low too well. It doesn't have much in the order of harmonic content above the fundamental, so when you filter out the lows on a system with a poor low end response, you lose the entire bass sound. The bass either needs a whole new sound all together with more harmonic content, or you need to apply some sort of distortion effect that will add harmonics and make the bass line more distinct when you lose the fundamentals. EQ probably won't get you very far because there is not much content in there in the first place.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 08:54:58
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On my small speakers I could hear the bass, and I echo skull session..... ditto on most listeners having small speakers. The music had a cool groove... but to my ear, the piano was totally in a different key... very non harmonic... not pleasant to listen to in a musical sense..... since this is not in the songs for review...I will stop commentary there.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2010/10/09 08:56:09
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 08:58:12
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Start working on those in an organised way. Make a mix that sounds as good as you can do it, then listen to i¨t on various systems. Then correct what's wrong, and again listen to it on various systems, and so on..
You need to learn your gear, and it takes a lot of trial and error, if your listening environment isn't very good (and even if it is).
Also reading something liker Roey Izhakis "Mixing audio" will give you more ammo to target the problems.
Compare the frequency spectrum of your track to something commercial that you like.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 10:49:58
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If you don't hear bass on your stereo, it's probably just because it's too low a frequency. This mix actually has a great deal of bass in it. But most of the energy is under 80Hz, and your stereo probably just can't reproduce it adequately. Before using your hi-fi as a reference (and there is nothing wrong with that), I would recommend testing it so you know what its limitations are. Get a copy of Ethan Winer's stepped-sine project and export it to a CD. Play it on your stereo and either record it (if possible) or just listen to it. You will likely discover that it simply cannot reproduce the extreme low end of that test. Figure out where the bass does kick in so in the future you'll be able to adjust your expectations accordingly.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 12:55:00
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this all boils down to having decent monitors, a good treated room, and knowing how to eq for all systems.
takes a long time, and a good bit of equipment, to ever get really good at this.
other wise, you're just guessing.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 14:07:02
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+1 Bat (and others) ... bass is difficult to adjust and different on multi-systems. Hence the fallacy of just using one pair of monitors (or cans?!) to translate.
Personally, I'm forced to HPF kick and bass tracks at about 30Hz (Q=0.7) (and/or on the master buss) ... as my mixes are quite cacaphonic ... with destructive harmonic distortions.
... interestingly, that really helps the bass come forward for some 'car' systems. (I guess that fundamental bass-rumbling produces 'bad' upper harmonics or something).
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 14:49:05
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You're absolutely right, Philip! It seems counter-intuitive at first, but it's true: cutting bass can make the bass more powerful.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 15:12:31
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i typically roll off my bass tracks starting at about 40hz, and STILL have too much bass in the low harmonics.
philip is quite right, you have to understand your source very well.
then, you have to understand how that is going to mask every other track you have that has any low end energy....
then you have to understand HPF and LPF
then you have to understand collective frequency buildup....
then you start making decisions.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 17:39:34
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Guitarhacker
The music had a cool groove... but to my ear, the piano was totally in a different key... very non harmonic... not pleasant to listen to in a musical sense.....
since this is not in the songs for review...I will stop commentary there.
Well i love the fedback i agree piano during the 2nd half of the verse is off need be more sader with the guitar. At lease is how im trying make it lol So seem like i need ajust my freqs and burn the song maybe couple times till sounds right. only porblem when mixing is way my equipment set up i try post pic in few mins.and yall can give sum advice.
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 18:05:39
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Re:cant hear the bass on my stereo
2010/10/09 18:07:04
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and yes i like street fighter lol
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