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2009/12/15 10:35:07 (permalink)

computer optimization

searched but cant seem to find the computer optimization thread.  I am runnin 8.3.1 on vista and get dropouts and would like to optimize so i don't get them bastards anymore.  It always seems to happen when i am recording a GOOD take.  Thx in advance.  Also,  i am running a presonus firestudio via firewire and such.  computer is amd 6000+ with 3 gigs of ram
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    Beagle
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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/15 11:28:13 (permalink)
    which driver mode are you using and what is your latency set to?

    are you running this system on the internet?  do you have a wireless network card?  do you have antivirus software running?  do you have a webcam?  tell us as much about your system as possible.

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/15 12:26:34 (permalink)

    I am runnin 8.3.1 on vista and get dropouts and would like to optimize so i don't get them bastards anymore

    If your getting drop outs, its more likely due to your sound card settings inside sonar. Todays pc's do not need to be optimized. With a decent audio sound card, any pc that you get off the shelf today will run sonar.
     
    Why not list your sound card settings and your pc specs.
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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/15 12:42:50 (permalink)
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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/15 13:30:35 (permalink)
    1) You haven't told us anything about what kind of project you're working on (what plugins, number of tracks, any softsynths and what they are, etc.,)...

    2) Running SONAR on a Vista machine with only 3GB of RAM doesn't leave a lot of room for error...

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/15 15:25:32 (permalink)
    Are you using a Texas Instruments chipset Firewire controller?  I'm guessing not...
    That's a potential culprit (if not)
     
    The suggestion to check your DPC latency is also spot on.
     
    Other than pushing the system too hard (which can obviously cause dropouts), those are the two most common things that cause dropouts/glitches/etc.

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/15 20:25:19 (permalink)
    allright,
    Vista updated
    amd 6000+(3.0*2 i beleive)
    3 gigs of ram
    Presonus Firestudio
    bit debth 24 (64 box checked)
    44100 sampeling rate
    WDM/KS
    Buffers in playback queue 2
    buffer size 252 samples (5.7 msec)
    Playback and Record I/O buffer size 256
    Dithering-Triangular
    MMCSS
    Multiprocessing engine
    Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
    No internet,  antivirus, wireless or webcam, 
    i got it so it isn't doing it very often but it ocasionally happens,  i would say once every 15 minutes.  wether it be a project playing one track or 24 tracks,  it doesn't seem to matter but like i say i got it to a acceptable level now by disableing the wireless and antivirus but it still does happen,  btw,  you guys are awesome
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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/15 20:46:28 (permalink)
    ok - that looks good, try the DPC latency checker that the guys mentioned above.  if you don't know about it, just google it.

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/16 00:15:51 (permalink)
    I'm using Vista 32 Home on my Toshiba laptop and it sucks! Switched all kinds of things off. My main culprits where the windows battery checker and the wireless internet and networking. It did improve things but not enough. My main trouble is with the soundcard; a Steinberg MR816 CSX. The Vista/Steinberg combo is hideous.

    I think I have to abandon Vista!

    My priorities are running Ableton Live at a gig with the soundcard I've invested in (which works well has nice preamps and routing etc). I love composing and recording using Sonar PE but the windows platform is a head wrecking nightmare requiring the whole world to become IT geeks just to do some basic stuff.

    I would love to goto Sonar 8.5 PE from version 8. But I don't trust Microsoft to be anything other than unusable. My trust is shattered by the frustration the company has caused me. So I'll either go to their legacy XP which can no longer be bought or maybe even go mac and abandon Cakewalk and just be happy with a Mac and Ableton Live8.

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/16 06:58:49 (permalink)
    I tried Vista briefly when I bought a new computer with it pre-installed.

    As I recall it ran Sonar OK after I switched off readyboost and superfetch in Vista(32).

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/16 07:57:34 (permalink)
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    DPC Latency:

    http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml


    This is a very useful thread and I just downloaded the DPC latency checker as well as that pdf explanation sheet which expanded on some points.  Since I'm using a notebook computer w/Win XP Pro SP3, I'm looking at going in and disabling the Ethernet, WiFi, and internal audio to improve my own system's performance.  Of course the disadvantage is not being able to be on the forum here on the same computer!  But my own latency numbers bounced around from high teens to high 40's and that's not real great so it's time to optimize whatever can be.   Good tips, guys thanks!!   

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/16 12:29:14 (permalink)
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    I tried Vista briefly when I bought a new computer with it pre-installed.

    As I recall it ran Sonar OK after I switched off readyboost and superfetch in Vista(32).


    so how would i disable these,  in msconfig under services or where are these at
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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/16 14:22:15 (permalink)
    Device Manager is the easiest place to do that. In Vista click start and type devmgmt.msc and hit enter.

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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/18 23:15:59 (permalink)
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    hugojacquet


    DPC Latency:

    http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml


    This is a very useful thread and I just downloaded the DPC latency checker as well as that pdf explanation sheet which expanded on some points.  Since I'm using a notebook computer w/Win XP Pro SP3, I'm looking at going in and disabling the Ethernet, WiFi, and internal audio to improve my own system's performance.  Of course the disadvantage is not being able to be on the forum here on the same computer!  But my own latency numbers bounced around from high teens to high 40's and that's not real great so it's time to optimize whatever can be.   Good tips, guys thanks!!   

    Agreeded this is a very useful tip. I found an nvida driver causing me problems. Thought I was gonna have to re istall again becasue of unwated crakling on exported audio..  More people should know this..
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    Re:computer optimization 2009/12/19 13:25:44 (permalink)
    Take a look at Post # 13 on this thread ...

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=1714876&mpage=1#1718892



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