console RECAL

Could someone explain console RECAL for me?

Just about any high end pro studio console has Recall. As well as automation.
Im talking about PRO Neve Consoles

Yes for sure. Thank You!

Though I was told somewhere that "All consoles with automation have a recall function" is not true.

ok now that i have the attention of someone familliar with a console/automation/recall

if i want to mix with sonar and a console how do I set it up?

music/preamps
interface inputs/pc
interface outputs/console
power amp/monitors

Any suggestions on a 24+ Track "begginner" Console that I can get started on?

OK, He said RECAL, not RECALL thats what I was wondering. There is something new everyday, so I did not know. In Sonar we have "Snapshots" which is RECALL, use it everyday.................JDW

LOL...yeah, I suppose there are some desks out there where the "RECAL" might stand for "recalibration", in short, "zero'ing out" the console to where all EQ returns to flat, all faders return to -00-, all aux sends are cleared, etc, but, most consoles with automation allow you to do this anyway by "recalling" a blank "scene". So, it's really 6 in one hand half a dozen in the other.

As far as the benfits of using an external console in conjunction with your PC, my question would be, simply, why do you want to? Unless you got a great deal on one of those 30 foot monster boards or someone left a NEVE on your doorstep, most of what you want to accomplish using an automated board can be done internally within the program. I understand that there are still engineers out there who like the actual" feel " of a working control surface, who want to be able to actually tweak a pot (and sometimes I miss it too, ..there's still quite a bit of 'Old School" in this engineer...LOL) but, with the exception of a few scenarios, most of what I want to accomplish, I can do so within the parameters of the software. (BTW..I'm not a Sonar user, I'm a HS user).

I have an 02R with flying fader automation, and I do use it, and yes, I do like it alot, but as computer technology grows, at the current rate that it is, I find myself using it less and less.

I put serious stock into mics, monitors and room acoustics (no matter what you record to or how you record it, these quotients will never cease to be important) but as far as me missing that 150 ft Neotek Console I used to work on, well, I don't, really.

I guess more info would be needed as to what you want to do that you can't do internally.

--Donny

thats why I was asking. I've learned from all the respones. I just wanted to find out how important the console really is, and how I could incorperate it. But it seems if I need 16 mics to record a full band live of the floor, I can just use two Presonus Digimax Units, and my PC.
Im all set

Donny,..

What do you think the limits of a computers track record capabilities are
(asuming the software allows unlimited tracks)
Lets say a damn decent processor 3Ghz or so, and 1GB RAM
With all track "input monitor" enabled, how many tracks do you think i could record
with 128bit latency settings?
What if I already had 8 tracks recorded?
How do the Professional ProTools studios do this?
thanks again......

Dustin, There is no track limit (per say) anymore these days. Donny's right it is all done in DAW in MOST state of the art studios these days. I am privy to a coulpe of "Blank Check" studios where they get what they need and the latest without counting pennies. I have a large 32 channel EV/Tapco one of the last boards Greg Mackie did before he forned Mackie in the '90s. Then it was sent to him personally for an upgrade in the new at the time LOUD Technologies faucility outside Woodinville, Wash. I like Donny say's rarely you use this console. Why? Because most people don't understand it and I play guitar and between the console and road case it weighs a ton. It has 4 sub-mixs and the routing possibilities are about endless. See it has quality pre's built in the actual channel strips but I could do a pre or post insert with a seperate pre or processer. I could also run to 4 seperate pres for the 4 subs into my DAW. See where I'm going with this, toooo complicated. So we use a Allen& Heath for live and I use my JL Cooper for studio just run faders,automation,edits and transport. Then my EMU 1820m is my converters and "soundcard". my pre's and outboard proccessing hook into that and I use a seperate Motu micro express 4/6 for MIDI. Also I use a Haffler transana P1000 and Tannoy C6s for monitors which also come off the EMU. As I was saying tho the only timr I would use my big console would be for live recording, other than that it sits in a road case behind my couch. I'll use it at a gig once a month so the pots don't get scratchy (and I don't forget how to operate it) but I tell 'ya when I do that I bring a lunch as it is a all day job. One more thing Pro Tools IMHO really offers no advantage to any of us over Sonar. In fact if anything Sonar is better because it is far easier IMHO to use than PT. All you got to have really is a DSP card or 2 and you have a very powerfull system. If you have access to a computer with Win98 or Millinium go Here and see what I'm talking about. Best of luck Dustin, I think your serious about this because you are asking a lot of the right questions and you relize the exspense involved.......................JDW