kook
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console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
So whats the point on the console emulator in pro channel...whats the benefit ? What does it do..dosent seem to do anything in my recording
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 15:43:36
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Hi. If you use it on every track, it will make a difference. It's just subtle by it's own.
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 15:51:58
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 16:29:30
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flip to the middle one of the three 'bus console emulators' on your mix or masterbus.
turn on 'tolerance'.
then you need to hear a difference, if you don't either your monitoring is not good or your ears...
(the middle console emulator adds low freq and presense freq, at least that's what I hear and adds about 2db
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 17:39:03
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kook
So whats the point on the console emulator in pro channel...whats the benefit ? What does it do..dosent seem to do anything in my recording
Indeed, it is very subtle...and it takes a while to hear the effect. Make sure you turn the gain down about a db, the turn the drive up...it fattens transients...listen to the transients.
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kook
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 18:04:09
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Ty im playing with consoles now..def hear a difference..can someone direct me on how to globally a/b just the consoles ?
Ty
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 18:14:29
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you can't listen to 'just the consoles' , you'll have to a/b 'm by flipping trough the 3.
note there's channel and bus console emulators (and I don't know the difference honestly).
the left is the least audible one, then comes the middle one and the right one changes the sound the most.
and if you have anything sounding harsh/too bright you can try the 'tape emulator' module in the prochannel to make it 'warm' again.
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 18:23:03
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kook
Ty im playing with consoles now..def hear a difference..can someone direct me on how to globally a/b just the consoles ?
Ty
The console emulator has a cumulative effect. It is very subtle and only really works if you have it on every track. I would suggest outputing a mix using the emulator on every track, then outputting one with it turned off on every track, loading those two mixes into a new project, and then A/B them against each other. Perhaps read up a bit on what the effect is supposed to achieve, it is not something everyone wants in their mixes, but if you are after the magical, elusive "analogue warmth", this tool is very useful.
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kook
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 18:50:10
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Ty i do use the tape emulator to take down harshness..im actually going through an old console into my daw..im using an old ramsa ive read it used high quality preamps..so far im happy with it....im def not a pro at recording..in sonar i have my instrument tracks guit, bass, voc, and each drum individual..then i have one master...im not using any busses im still learning...but thats gonna be another thread shortly..ty
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 18:51:06
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The first button is supposed to emulate the characteristics of an SSL board. The middle button is a Neve. The third is a Trident. All of those are boards that the hardware versions are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. The cool aspect is you can mix and match different combination such as SSL for drums, Trident for keys, Neve for vox, etc......
It is a very subtle effect and some will argue that it's not worth messing with. It's more of a personal choice.
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 20:08:53
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if you possess the skill, have the ear, you will definitely hear the difference.
In my travels I found that sticking with one emulation per project really lends to the tonal characteristics.
Im a big SSL fan, however I prefer the tonal emulations of the Neve. when I mix and match console emulators things sound to clogged and undistinguishable. but using one emulator across the board I hear more definition.
I don't use the console emulator as much as I used. now I stick with the SSL bus compressor on all my buses and prefer this sound over the console emulation. While the console emulators don't add compression and the Waves SSL bus compressor does. the Waves SSL adds an Analog characteristic that is unbeatable in anything else I've tried.
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 20:13:25
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Try selecting all the tracks and using the Ctrl key turning all the channels consule emulators on and off.. You'll hear the cumulative effect.. It adds crosstalk and a bit of saturation. Very musical in my opinion!
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Re: console emulator in pro channel ..whats the point?
2017/01/27 22:29:51
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chuckebaby
I don't use the console emulator as much as I used. now I stick with the SSL bus compressor on all my buses and prefer this sound over the console emulation. While the console emulators don't add compression and the Waves SSL bus compressor does. the Waves SSL adds an Analog characteristic that is unbeatable in anything else I've tried.
Thank you. That's in line with my thinking. Good to hear it from someone like you.
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