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2012/10/09 10:47:45 (permalink)

control room window

I now have control of 2 bedrooms in the house which are adjacent.  my studio is currently in one of them and I'm expanding into the next.  I have already taken over the closet of the adjacent room by starting to convert it into a vocal/isolation booth (the closet is between the two rooms on 1/2 of one of the walls).
 
I am considering building a control room window between the two rooms and possibly a small window from the "control room" to the iso booth.
 
my concern is reflections on the window.  I seem to remember reading somewhere that control room windows are built with double panes with an air gap and they are not in parallel planes.  I can't imagine this would be for reflection problems, but more likely to help reduce transmission problems.
 
does that sound right?  anyone have any good advice on how to go about this?

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/09 11:22:19 (permalink)
    That is what I've heard too, Reece.  Control double paned - not parallel.  Just like walls.  I'm not sure how expensive one should go in a home studio, but if you can swing it ...

    Video might be a better route to go.  Not as cool looking, but would probably work as well.

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/09 11:28:17 (permalink)
    wow!  I never ever considered that way, Alan!  actually that might be a much better alternative!  that way I can reduce reflections with acoustic foam on the walls and not worry about reflections on the glass!  that will also keep Mrs. Beagle happier if I don't alter the walls (resale value of the house and all!)

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/09 14:11:36 (permalink)
    You know Reece even tho I do have control of two bedrooms in the house and I could do a control room and a live tracking room,
     
    the real issue would be for anyone who wishes to use the full sized bathroom that seperates the two bedrooms......!!!!!!!

    Just saying

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/09 16:23:27 (permalink)
    :-)

    thankfully that's a problem I don't have!

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/09 17:05:53 (permalink)
    +1 for the video option. If I had two rooms I'd definitely go that route, for convenience as well as acoustics. You could even add a second camera to see who's at the front door without getting up from your chair, or to spot the UPS truck you've been waiting for (I've missed a few deliveries because I had headphones on!).

    I have never constructed a studio window, only read about it, but all my sources suggest that angling the glass and making the panes nonparallel is pretty much a waste of time. All it's going to do is break up flutter echoes against the back wall behind you, which usually isn't a problem anyway. At least not with my big head in the way. Even if it was a problem, it's easily treated with rear-wall absorption.

    What it's not going to do is improve isolation. More important is getting a good airtight seal using liberal quantities of silicone caulk. I think it was Rod Gervais' book that had lots of diagrams...a good book to have regardless.


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    Re:control room window 2012/10/10 09:26:16 (permalink)
    +10 on the video option..... If you were in a building in the back yard I'd say cut the holes in the walls and install windows..... but inside the house you must consider the resale value of the house. 

    With a simple 4 channel wireless observation system you can have cameras where you need them, move them easily since there are no wires to relocate, and it will end up being cheaper and way easier than installing a window. 

    A quick search shows that Best Buy among others has a few offerings in the same price range as install a permanent window..... others include SuperCircuits* (*I have used this companies products in some of my commercial jobs), X-10, Tigerdirect and Lowes. 

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/10 12:03:05 (permalink)
    thanks guys!  I think I will probably go with the camera system.  good info!

    bit - I tend to miss the doorbell even without headphones!  ;-)

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/10 12:38:57 (permalink)
    So Beagle will now be posting videos?
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    Re:control room window 2012/10/10 13:17:42 (permalink)
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    So Beagle will now be posting videos?


    only if you have a subscription and sign a waiver that you're over 18.

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/10 16:03:18 (permalink)
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    thanks guys!  I think I will probably go with the camera system.  good info!

    bit - I tend to miss the doorbell even without headphones!  ;-)

    get a wireless system with 4 cameras.... use as many as you need in the studio rooms.... and put one near the front door and another on the driveway if you have 2 spares.... with them on the screen in a quad display, you will see the UPS driver pulling in and see him at the door. 

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    Re:control room window 2012/10/10 16:15:44 (permalink)
    da ja vue...

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    Re:control room window 2012/11/01 14:46:53 (permalink)
    Studio windows are installed non-parallel & angled to cut down reflections from lighting so you can see through the window clearly.
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    Re:control room window 2012/11/02 14:18:20 (permalink)
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    I am considering building a control room window between the two rooms and possibly a small window from the "control room" to the iso booth. 



    why not put camera inside the room and you'll have "control window/cam" at no cost.

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    Re:control room window 2012/11/03 21:12:37 (permalink)
    did you read any of the posts in this thread??

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    Re:control room window 2012/11/04 18:12:34 (permalink)
    Studios with a camera ans a screen seem to be the new norm over the windows in control rooms.
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