tomixornot
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"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
This is the first project I'm using BFD2 (after having it for sometime, with the latest update version). I've narrowed it down to the BFD2 track (all default sound - have not add any extra library yet) : http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12112929 You can hear the "cricket" effect at 16 and 21 sec. I'm sure BFD2 had been around long enough to iron out any bug of this kind ? as it's reproducible on every audio export. However, it never happen while playing the track inside X2. I've experience some sound not being played completely, but I think that is due to after starting a just opened project and BFD2 is busy loading the samples. If I do not freeze any track, the 'cricket' effect will be heard on exported audio. If I freeze the BFD2 track, the 'cricket' effect can be heard immediately. All at random spots, most likely after a crash cymbal, but not always. I'm using BFD2 as a sound module. I do not use any of the BFD2 interface for drum programming, as I'm using Step Sequencer to create the drum track. I have 2 midi tracks controlling BFD2, but these 2 tracks did not play the same sound. BFD users.. have you came across this kind of issue ? My BFD2 samples are stored in a separate USB drive - it's not the fastest drive around - will this be an issue ? Thanks!
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 04:04:38
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I think this is a simple solution. Immediately before you export or freeze, open the BFD GUI, right at the bottom there is what looks like a label called "Offline" Click it and it will turn red. Now do your Export/Freeze
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tomixornot
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 04:26:05
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Bristol_Jonesey I think this is a simple solution. Immediately before you export or freeze, open the BFD GUI, right at the bottom there is what looks like a label called "Offline" Click it and it will turn red. Now do your Export/Freeze Thanks for the tip, after I did that, the 'cricket' effect is less, but I can still hear it twice, within the frozen track. I'm going to try to bounce the midi drum tracks try importing a midi file to the BFD2 interface and see how it goes, shall update again.
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 05:08:08
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Freeze Option - disable Fast Bounce. This setting (together with clicking "offline" to red color in BFD2) seems to produce the a clean BFD2 track after freezing, but it takes much longer time. Is disabling the Fast Bounce option a common setup for complex multi-gigabyte sample based VSTi ?
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 05:42:23
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Yep - I have to do that with BFD, even with my rig
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 08:20:36
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Contact Fxpansion tech support, and try rolling back to a prior version (which you can download from the FXpansion site). If it doesn't happen with a prior version (which is possible) then it's likely that something in the most recent release creates some chirping. From what I remember, there's not really a lot of significant differences between the most recent BFD2 release and the prior version so it's not like you'd be loosing any killer features by rolling back.
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 08:23:47
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You can also try playing around with the buffer settings on the engine page to see if that helps any, but I'd try a rollback first.
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 12:12:28
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tomixornot Freeze Option - disable Fast Bounce. This setting (together with clicking "offline" to red color in BFD2) seems to produce the a clean BFD2 track after freezing, but it takes much longer time. Is disabling the Fast Bounce option a common setup for complex multi-gigabyte sample based VSTi ? I've read several posts in the forum where little exported audio anomalies were cured by disabling Fast Bounce. Now, I always disable Fast Bounce before doing an export, and it seems to work perfectly every time.
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 13:36:15
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Thanks for the suggestion. @Funkybot : I downloaded the latest public beta, still the same, shall try rolling back now. @leapinlizard : disabling Fast Bounce seems the best solution so far..
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/17 23:36:05
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Interesting . . . I use BFD2 (v2.3.0.38), and have Fast Bounce on, and BFD's "Offline Mode" turned off. BFD2 is inserted as a simple instrument track, no freezing of the track is done at all, the current kit is 862 MB. Haven't had any crickets sounds, or other anomalies, seems like a clean mixdown when exporting from Sonar X2a.
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/18 05:37:17
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BFD2 is inserted as a simple instrument track Interesting. I'd be interested to hear how tomixornot has got his BFD tracks set up. Mine are set to split Midi/Audio, and I can run up to about 20 odd audio tracks to split out each kit piece to it's own track (+ additional tracks for the different kick & snare voicings)
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/18 13:24:55
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Sounds like the drive throughput isn't up to snuff Is the sample data on a dedicated 7200 RPM drive? Rail
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tomixornot
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/18 22:12:09
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Hi, Just realized there are some updates in this thread.. I'm inserting BFD2 as simple instrument track as well. The only different is after that, I manually insert another midi track and set the midi output to BFD2 and drag it under the same BFD2 folder. I'm using the second midi track mainly for hi-hats. I'm still using Step Sequencer for programming as I find it easier to use than the BFD2 interface. @Rail : I think the drive speed may be the issue too. I have a few external HDD from PGMusic/Band-in-a-box after few upgrades and used them for my sample drive. I don't think these are 7200 RPM drives. I'm not sure where I've read it, but I remembered reading something like putting the BFD2 samples to any external drive is better than sharing the same system drive, so I though of just set it up with the drives that I've got and see how it goes.
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/19 05:14:30
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The best solution by far is to run them off a separate internal 7200rpm hard drive
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Re:"cricket" sound in exported BFD track
2013/01/19 05:35:29
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Yup, shall upgrade to a 7200rpm drive soon. I'll probably get another drive for testing with Win 8 too. Thanks.
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