delay sync

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2017/04/20 05:01:18 (permalink)

delay sync

Hey I was just using the z3ta+2, specifically I was playing with the delay modulator and the sync part of it. What is the difference between say 1d, 1 and 1t sync timings?
 
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 06:11:01 (permalink)
    1d = dotted whole
    1 = whole
    1t = triplet whole?
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 06:39:05 (permalink)
    Thanks. I know dotted whole. But, is a triplet whole just 3 beats in one whole note? Sorry don't really know music theory. 
     
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 06:45:34 (permalink)
    I could be wrong here, but I think it's 2.66666 beats.
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 06:49:39 (permalink)
    That's odd that it would be 2.66 beats per whole if its called a triplet. Any idea how that number is calculated?
     
    Thanks for your help man!
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 06:49:46 (permalink)
    That's odd that it would be 2.66 beats per whole if its called a triplet. Any idea how that number is calculated?
     
    Thanks for your help man!
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 07:11:13 (permalink)
    It's not. A triplet means three notes in a space where there would "normally" be two.

    Crash course in music theory:
    Most current stuff is counted as 4/4, meaning four quarter notes to the measure. Each quarter note represents one beat in that case. Normal math applies, so a note twice as long as a quarter note is a half note and a note half as long as a quarter note is an 8th note. Like I said before, a triplet fits three notes in a space where there would normally be two. So if two eight notes make one quarter note, an eight note triplet does too. You just divide the quarter note into three equal parts. Similarly a quarter note triplet is as long as one half note (two musical beats in a 4/4 measure).

    Hope that doesn't leave your brain spinning. These might help:
    https://goo.gl/images/YqqARF
    That one starts with a whole note, then half notes, quarter notes, eights and finally sixteenth (there are more, you could basically keep dividing as much as you want).
    A triplet example is in this next image:
    https://goo.gl/images/RydpJz
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 07:21:40 (permalink)
    One whole note = eight 8th notes
    one whole note triplet = eight 8th note triplets

    There are 12 8th note triplets in a 4/4 bar.
    Which means that one whole note triplet is 2/3 of a bar (8/12 or .666 of a bar)

    8/12 = x(beats)/4
    12x = 32
    x = 2.666
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 07:31:49 (permalink)
    That's where I got the number at least.

    I'm sure i'm wrong, but now I'm curious how many beats a whole note triplet is too!! :(
     
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 07:55:48 (permalink)
    I see the confusion here, I misunderstood you before. You are entirely correct that ONE partial of a whole note triplet would be 2 2/3 beats (approximated by 2.667). But in Dutch, and I'm assuming in English, a "triplet" is a group of three notes. This could be a language thing though, sorry if I confused the matter more. FWIW, musically I don't think it makes sense to count out beats to a triplet partial.
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 07:59:49 (permalink)
    I see.

    I guess what I meant was, in the case of the z3ta+2 delay, a delay would sound every 2.66 beats if 1t was selected as the sync value. Not that you would ever count it like that though.

    Alright, enough math. My head hurts. 
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 14:03:54 (permalink)
    Ahh thanks, guys. It took be a bit of reading and re-reading, but it makes perfect sense now! 
     
    Much appreciated. 
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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 16:12:27 (permalink)
    Without the explanation, triplet is 2/3 the duration, dotted is 3/2 the duration .

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    Re: delay sync 2017/04/20 16:45:50 (permalink)
    That's a pretty elegant way to phrase it :)
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