cboshuizen
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demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
So when I read the news this morning I decided with Cake gone, I should try Studio One and test out my entire Sonar workflow. This is the result: https://soundcloud.com/dr...first-light-dr-chrispy From the download of the software demo to exporting this first track took 3 hours. That included installing the whole thing and all plug ins, starting a first project, googling some UX stuff I found confusing, and then composing and recording this little ditty. My conclusion: Studio One is VERY easy to learn. It is faster to work in than Sonar. It integrates Melodyne better. It is much more stable. It never crashed. It uses less memory and less CPU, and so can run at lower latency. It also recognized my Edirol PCR-1 keyboard and had a template for it. I tried to use some of my Cake plugins and others, and they all worked seamlessly. What an amazing, low-friction experience!  Only down sides: The UX is a bit ugly and tiny. The keyboard shortcuts are all unconventional and will take time to learn. The zoom in/out was a bit annoying. My advice: get the full version during Black Friday. https://soundcloud.com/dr...first-light-dr-chrispy
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jadonx
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 22:29:40
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Was that the artist or professional version?
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TheMaartian
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 22:36:04
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The image shows the Project tab, so it's the Pro version.
And Artist is a 32-bit app. No 64-bit plugins. Plus, you need an add-on to use VST plugins in Artist.
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jadonx
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 22:42:47
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The image shows the Project tab, so it's the Pro version.
And Artist is a 32-bit app. No 64-bit plugins. Plus, you need an add-on to use VST plugins in Artist.
Really so it has to be professional then to play my 64 bit plugs ...I was looking at the artist/notion bundle for £171 at presonus
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user4325874
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 22:46:50
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TheMaartian
The image shows the Project tab, so it's the Pro version.
And Artist is a 32-bit app. No 64-bit plugins. Plus, you need an add-on to use VST plugins in Artist.
Really so it has to be professional then to play my 64 bit plugs ...I was looking at the artist/notion bundle for £171 at presonus
64-bit plugins work fine in Artist with the paid plugin add-on.
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TheMaartian
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 23:02:51
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The image shows the Project tab, so it's the Pro version.
And Artist is a 32-bit app. No 64-bit plugins. Plus, you need an add-on to use VST plugins in Artist.
Really so it has to be professional then to play my 64 bit plugs ...I was looking at the artist/notion bundle for £171 at presonus
64-bit plugins work fine in Artist with the paid plugin add-on.
Really? Without JBridge? PreSonus documentation specifically says that 32-bit plugins won't work in 64-bit S1 and 64-bit plugins won't work in 32-bit S1.
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user4325874
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 23:24:23
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TheMaartian
The image shows the Project tab, so it's the Pro version.
And Artist is a 32-bit app. No 64-bit plugins. Plus, you need an add-on to use VST plugins in Artist.
Really so it has to be professional then to play my 64 bit plugs ...I was looking at the artist/notion bundle for £171 at presonus
64-bit plugins work fine in Artist with the paid plugin add-on.
Really? Without JBridge? PreSonus documentation specifically says that 32-bit plugins won't work in 64-bit S1 and 64-bit plugins won't work in 32-bit S1.
What makes you think there isn't a 64-bit version of Presonus Artist? The audio-processing resolution is 32 floating-point in Artist though.
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cboshuizen
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 23:26:24
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TheMaartian
The image shows the Project tab, so it's the Pro version.
Correct, it was the pro version.
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chuckebaby
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 23:32:18
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☄ Helpfulby cboshuizen 2017/11/21 23:50:21
I caution people to not get sucked in to people toting new DAWs right now. I’m sure other software developers are circling this forum like sharks right now seeing users scurrying for something new. Not saying that was the purpose of the OP but I’m going to look long and hard before I invest my money and more importantly. My TIME.
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cboshuizen
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 23:35:32
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chuckebaby
I caution people to not get sucked in to people toting new DAWs right now. I’m sure other software developers are circling this forum like sharks right now seeing users scurrying for something new. Not saying that was the purpose of the OP but I’m going to look long and hard before I invest my money and more importantly. My TIME.
These are all good points. My goal was to get first hand experience, potentially with the aim to save some money during the Black Friday sales. I encourage everyone to make their decision based on their own demoing, not on my glowing review. I guess for me, this shock today made me realize that the barrier to using other DAWs is not as high as I had thought - it's more about money than learning curve.
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TheMaartian
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 23:38:24
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The image shows the Project tab, so it's the Pro version.
And Artist is a 32-bit app. No 64-bit plugins. Plus, you need an add-on to use VST plugins in Artist.
Really so it has to be professional then to play my 64 bit plugs ...I was looking at the artist/notion bundle for £171 at presonus
64-bit plugins work fine in Artist with the paid plugin add-on.
Really? Without JBridge? PreSonus documentation specifically says that 32-bit plugins won't work in 64-bit S1 and 64-bit plugins won't work in 32-bit S1.
What makes you think there isn't a 64-bit version of Presonus Artist? The audio-processing resolution is 32 floating-point in Artist though.
Maxima mea culpa. 
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Cactus Music
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/21 23:57:16
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My thoughts as well Chuck,, it's like, why panic, Sonar will work for a long time yet so.. . start kicking the tires? yes, but hang on to your money and once you do choose a DAW wait for a deal .. There's always a way to get what you want cheap.
Example, I bet if you purchase a PreSonus mixer or interface you get the software free.
That's what I will look into as the ProSonus mixers intigrate seemlessly with the DAW. Something Sonar never had.
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 00:07:57
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My thoughts as well Chuck,, it's like, why panic, Sonar will work for a long time yet so.. . start kicking the tires? yes, but hang on to your money and once you do choose a DAW wait for a deal .. There's always a way to get what you want cheap.
Example, I bet if you purchase a PreSonus mixer or interface you get the software free.
That's what I will look into as the ProSonus mixers intigrate seemlessly with the DAW. Something Sonar never had.
Is that feature available yet? I love PS1 great product but so also is Sonar.
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cboshuizen
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 00:23:16
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Cactus Music
Example, I bet if you purchase a PreSonus mixer or interface you get the software free.
That's what I will look into as the ProSonus mixers intigrate seemlessly with the DAW. Something Sonar never had.
Good point, if you buy the Faderport 8 it comes with S1 Artist, and then you can upgrade at https://www.audiodeluxe.com/ for $125.98 with their FALL2017 coupon code. Alternatively, the S1+Notion bundle is $190 in cart too.
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 00:38:06
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Sonar will work for a long time yet so
Maybe not as long as you might think if you are on Windows 10 and have updates enabled. If you are on a previous version of Windows, 7 or 8, or disable updates if you are on Windows 10 you might last longer, but then you could eventually run into other Hardware/Software/ Driver issues. If SONAR was my main DAW, I would be disabling updates now ( which I have for a long time anyway)
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An Unmarked Place
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 00:46:36
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☄ Helpfulby cboshuizen 2017/11/22 01:23:59
Biggest issue for me with Studio One - and the key reason I recently purchased Sonar - is that Studio One does not support SysEx in any way, shape or form. It makes working with many hardware synths that rely heavily on SysEx for parameter automation impossible.
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cboshuizen
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 06:56:09
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Biggest issue for me with Studio One... is that Studio One does not support SysEx Yeah true, I got rid my external hardware years ago so that hasn't been a problem for me.
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 13:18:09
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chuckebaby
I caution people to not get sucked in to people toting new DAWs right now. I’m sure other software developers are circling this forum like sharks right now seeing users scurrying for something new. Not saying that was the purpose of the OP but I’m going to look long and hard before I invest my money and more importantly. My TIME.
yeah, that was the thing that got me - the surprise x1 interface - "but it's just like learning a new app" said some (particular) regulars here - so for the first time since 1997 i actually demo'd other daws and STUDIO ONE just ticked all the right boxes, so i got a 2nd hand version, and since then i've never even had to read the manual it's so intuitive, and (and!) it has never crashed once, ever (ever!) - but then (like bitwig, altho i've not used that) it is a genuine 2nd generation daw, like a breath of fresh air, not just the latest version of an ancient one seriously, anyone familiar with daws should be able to just use s1 "out of the box" /fwiw/hth/ymmv/etc
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 13:19:17
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studio one's midi stuff is more basic, agreed
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rwandering
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Re: demo track: I tried Studio One for the first time and loved it
2017/11/22 14:33:21
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chuckebaby
. . . more importantly. My TIME.
Definitely. I do think the timing of this -- right before Black Friday -- makes this particularly hard though as it creates an additional pressure on people to save money.
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