HARDDRlVER
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desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
I was wondering if you completely turn off your computer(s) after you're finished with a session. To be specific, whoever answers, can you state what you're running, a desktop or laptop, please. Any issues?
I have a laptop. I've always left it on. When I installed splat, I continued doing so. One morning I went in to continue with a session and the laptop was frozen. Ctrl/alt/del did nothing. Pulling USB connections...nothing. only option was to hard shut down. When I rebooted (alt few times on purpose to make sure everything sat well), the performance meters were acting up. I was/altm getting a great deal of latency clicks/pops. I've gone through everything in the Sweetwater latency advisory. Nothing will fix it. If I start a brand new project...one audio, one midi, and nothing is even recorded yet, those performance meters are going wild. The latency program I downloaded a few weeks ago, doesn't look anything like I'm used to seeing. I think my only option is to once again, reinstall windows. Those people at cakewalk and waves are gonna think I'm up to something, reinstalling the software so many times
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 07:45:31
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I have a desktop, and always shut down my computer when I'm done using it.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 08:14:24
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Hi. I have a desktop in my studio. This (usually) gets turned off when finishing a session. My laptop is on 24/7, unless needing a reboot after installations / updates. Both has SONAR installed, but have not had problems with any of them freezing when left for hours / over night. All the best.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 08:36:01
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My desktop is on 24/7. There are things that run over night. Backups. defrag weekly (Yes it's a non SSD),etc
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 09:06:31
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I always shut down after a session.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 10:11:47
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My Studio machine is a desktop. It gets shut down when I'm done for the day. My laptop stays on 24/7 and rarely gets rebooted. But it doesn't have Sonar on it because its a Mac (hairy eyeball stare in your direction Cakewalk).
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 10:38:50
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Both laptop and desktop get shut down after use
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 10:40:13
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I always shut my machines down after I have finished for the day.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 11:07:18
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Desktop - shutdown after all work. (There may be a power cut that screws things up .. not often, but it can happen). jdf
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 11:40:57
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I always shut down my desktop. With SSD drive startup time isn't a issue anymore :)
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 12:04:48
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promidi My desktop is on 24/7. There are things that run over night. Backups. defrag weekly (Yes it's a non SSD),etc
ditto
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 12:33:23
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I shut down my laptop after every session, for 2 reasons. The unlikely risk of a power issue, and also my cats sitting on the keyboard and inadvertently pushing a key that does something.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 13:41:50
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My off-line desktop computer is shut down after every session.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 14:00:21
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I have a desktop and just don't like the idea of it being left on all the time - maybe it's paying for unnecessary electricity, I don't know.Why would you leave it on all the time when it's not being used? And what about power cuts? Leaving it on makes no sense to me.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 14:03:05
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24 /7 . just shut down for updates, some times on weekends.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 14:15:07
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I'll qualify my response above: My machine is connected to a UPS, so if I were to leave it on overnight and we DO get a power cut, we'd be woken by the God awful noise of the UPS alarms kicking in. My sleep is far too precious.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 14:51:47
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I shut down my desktop. Even idle it creates a certain amount of heat, which in the warm months (most of them in Austin TX) I then have to get rid of via air conditioning, so then I'm paying twice for electricity.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 14:53:53
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Bristol_Jonesey I'll qualify my response above: My machine is connected to a UPS, so if I were to leave it on overnight and we DO get a power cut, we'd be woken by the God awful noise of the UPS alarms kicking in. My sleep is far too precious.
Same here. I am on a UPS and have the modem and router connected as well. I shut off my desktop when done with backups. The UPS also does line filtering as we sometimes have dirty power in the Las Vegas valley.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 15:28:19
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My desktop is on 10-12 hours a day and then shut down every night when I'm done. My last PC, a standard issue Dell with Windows XP, was still running fine after 14+ years on this schedule. I did have to replace the graphics card around the 10-year mark.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 15:37:02
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I can't for the life of me see any good reason to leave a PC powered up when it is not doing anything.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 16:14:25
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I usually shut down because every HD has a life span. However on occasion (every few weeks) I'll close everything down but leave it on overnight for updates etc.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 16:29:51
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I will also qualify my response above: My PC is in hibernation mode all night and sleep sometimes during the days. I don't have problems with UPS, they only deliver packages during the day
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 17:32:28
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If I was on a more/less fixed schedule, I would prolly shut everything down at quitting time, with a fresh startup as part of my morning routine. The reality for me is that I have no set schedule. I grab DAW time when I can - frequently in the wee hours. There is a bit of hold-over from the old days, and prolly N/A now, where power cycling electronic equipment reduced its life expectancy.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 17:44:25
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My rather long-in-the-tooth desktop DAW (I think it's about 10 years old and still chugging along and amazingly still doing what I need it to do, which is a good thing as I'm looking at a bit of a lean year and not up for a full replacement) gets shut down every night for sure. That's partly because I sleep in a loft bed above it and don't care for the noise and electrical energy pulsing away beneath me while I sleep. My long-suffering wife wouldn't stand for it either - even she has limits. Also it has quirks and won't stand for sleep or hibernation - I've learned not to try, it just goes into a panic reboot loop that is nerve-wracking. But like someone said above, I've been doing it this way for a long time and the system seems to be relatively happy and stable despite its advanced age, so I have limited motivation to change what's been working so far...
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 18:26:06
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HARDDRlVER I was wondering if you completely turn off your computer(s) after you're finished with a session. To be specific, whoever answers, can you state what you're running, a desktop or laptop, please. Any issues?
I have a laptop. I've always left it on. When I installed splat, I continued doing so. One morning I went in to continue with a session and the laptop was frozen. Ctrl/alt/del did nothing. Pulling USB connections...nothing. only option was to hard shut down. When I rebooted (alt few times on purpose to make sure everything sat well), the performance meters were acting up. I was/altm getting a great deal of latency clicks/pops. I've gone through everything in the Sweetwater latency advisory. Nothing will fix it. If I start a brand new project...one audio, one midi, and nothing is even recorded yet, those performance meters are going wild. The latency program I downloaded a few weeks ago, doesn't look anything like I'm used to seeing. I think my only option is to once again, reinstall windows. Those people at cakewalk and waves are gonna think I'm up to something, reinstalling the software so many times
Re-installing windows might not help here. You could have a physical malfunction, such as HD failure, bad ram or it's overheating because the fans have died.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 18:38:43
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Laptop here I always shut it right down when I'm done... I've never trusted sleep mode... Don't ask me why.
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/10 18:59:48
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☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/04/10 20:04:43
synkrotron Laptop here I always shut it right down when I'm done... I've never trusted sleep mode... Don't ask me why.
The C6/C7 power saving sleep modes for Haswell chips will cause some power supplies to trigger circuit protection and shut down when coming out of sleep mode. Then you have to do a hard restart of the power supply. I read about this when building my last computer, and since my power supply wasn't on the list of tested and approved models, I just disabled C6/C7 in BIOS. But I'm like you, sleep/hibernation/power saving modes have tended to give me problems over the years, so I don't use them. Haswell Sleep States
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/11 13:16:26
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I have both a laptop and desktop and now turn them both off at the end of the session. I used to leave them running and noticed a couple of BAD things. 1) After a few years of leaving the desktop running the HDD went bad. The second time this happened I thought that leaving the unit on 24/7 might have something to do with this. (this was on 2 different desktops). 2) I noticed that my electric bill went down about $20 a month once I started shutting down after sessions. The bad thing was it was costing me over $300 a year leaving the units on. I use my laptop as a GUITAR AMP and feed the output to SPLAT, I usually just put this to sleep by closing the lid and not doing a complete shutdown. I just need to unplug and replug the USB cable for the McMillan foot controller. Win 10 loses the connection coming out of sleep mode. Jim
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Re: desktop or laptop, do you shut down after your sessions?
2017/04/11 14:39:51
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Desktops, either Windows or Linux, stay on 24/365 other than being restarted once in while to install updates etc., a forced reset following a freeze or in the case of Windows, a soft reboot once a month or so just to clear out the RAM and restart services. They sleep when not in use so scheduled tasks like backups etc. get done overnight or so shared resources are available on demand (one is a media, email etc. server).
A UPS ensures a tidy shut-down in the event of mains electricity failure.
My MacBook Pro does the same when I'm at home. No need for a UPS, the built-in battery does the job instead. If I've taken it somewhere I usually shut it down to save battery. Battery life in an i7 Retina MacBook needs all the help it can get.
As for HDDs, or any other electronics, wearing out if left on, the thermal changes caused by the circuits powering on and off can cause long-term reliability problems as well.
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