do I own SONAR Platinum or not???

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do I own SONAR Platinum or not???

In January 2015, I purchased "SONAR Platinum (Pay Upfront)" via Cleverbridge, for $149, discounted from $525. Presumably this is because I'd previously purchased every SONAR Producer upgrade since ProAudio 8. When I purchased the product, there was no mention of any yearly update fees, or it being a "membership product". I don't even think the concept of a membership product had come up yet at that point.
 
Some time after my purchase, I was informed by Cakewalk that the software I'd already purchased was changing over to a membership plan. I feel this was grossly unfair, with Cakewalk (who I'd been loyal to for many years prior) essentially taking away all support for the product that I'd already paid for, while I had the full expectation of support when I made the purchase.
 
So now I get this new email from Cakewalk, saying I can pay "only" $199.60, discounted from $499 (!!!), to renew my membership (which I never purchased), for ONE YEAR. Then what? I don't own it again?
 
Are you guys kidding me?
 
I bought SONAR Platinum in January 2015. I didn't buy a year of membership. I bought a software product with a lifetime license. So, do I own it or not???

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    stevec
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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/10/27 16:36:57 (permalink)
    I believe SONAR Platinum has been membership based since the beginning.  There were a number of threads discussing that topic back in January, 2015, like these:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/There-is-no-subscription-m3148129.aspx#3148129
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Cake-please-explain-membership-timing-ANSWERED-m3150896.aspx
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Cakewalk-Sonar-gt2015-Demo-Mode-Subscription-End-Question-m3149436.aspx
     
    Lifetime updates are a whole different subject, and started around summer of 2016.
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Lifetime-upgrade-m3421171.aspx
     
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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/10/27 17:07:29 (permalink)
    Walt Collins
    So now I get this new email from Cakewalk, saying I can pay "only" $199.60, discounted from $499 (!!!), to renew my membership (which I never purchased), for ONE YEAR. Then what? I don't own it again?
     
    Are you guys kidding me?
     
    I bought SONAR Platinum in January 2015. I didn't buy a year of membership. I bought a software product with a lifetime license. So, do I own it or not???

    You have bought SONAR Platinum version 2015.1, PLUS one year of the membership. That "membership" means you have also bought upgrades to all versions up to 2016.1.
     
    So you have lifetime license for all versions between 2015.1 and 2016.1
     
    The e-mail propose upgrading and get all versions from 2017.10 up to 2018.10, for $199.60. For which you also will have lifetime license.
     
    "Lifetime Platinum" was a special action, in the second half of 2016, when it was possible to pay once for ALL future versions of Sonar Platinum. It is not possible to buy that now. While people which have opted in wish other also have such an option, most have payed in 2016 extra to get it (approximately the price of one year updates as it was before). So effectively, such people will get as a gift only versions starting from 2018.1. There was some lucky people, which have upgraded to Platinum in 2016 for the first time and automatically got Lifetime updates. Well, this world is unfair 
     
     

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/10/27 17:53:17 (permalink)
    Thanks guys, and sorry for the rant. I just get steamed when cakewalk sends me emails telling me I can "rent-to-own" Sonar Platinum, when I already paid for and own Sonar Platinum and have a receipt from cakewalk proving it.
     
    Every prior product had support that didn't end after 12 months. Just feels like a bait and switch to me, and cakewalk lost a lot of my respect (and my business) when they did this crap back in 2015. They do not reward my many years of loyalty.
     
    I guess my confusion is because the product name doesn't change from release to release now. I'm fine with having "Sonar Platinum 2016.1", and not 2017.1. But the problem is that version 2016.1 now seems abandoned, not acknowledged to exist, forgotten, and unsupported, unless I pay for a new version every year and migrate to the new product.
     
    Feels shady. Oh well.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/10/27 21:32:50 (permalink)
    Walt Collins
    Every prior product had support that didn't end after 12 months. Just feels like a bait and switch to me, and cakewalk lost a lot of my respect (and my business) when they did this crap back in 2015. They do not reward my many years of loyalty.
     
    I guess my confusion is because the product name doesn't change from release to release now. I'm fine with having "Sonar Platinum 2016.1", and not 2017.1. But the problem is that version 2016.1 now seems abandoned, not acknowledged to exist, forgotten, and unsupported, unless I pay for a new version every year and migrate to the new product.

    I am relatively new with Sonar, but if I remember correctly for all Sonar X there was no updates for older version once newer version was released.
    But there are some changes:
    * Before it was possible to buy "older" version, and close to the next release it was cheaper. Today you always pay for the latest available + all updates within the year, starting from the time of purchase.
    * fixes are coming faster (with new bugs, but most critical of them are normally fixes in "intermediate" releases)
     
    I do not think that changes is support schema (I mean phone support and responses on mails) are directly related to the new model.
    Fortunately, this forum is still alive and CW people monitoring it. I guess that is the fastest way to get support at the moment, for any version.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/10/30 12:21:28 (permalink)
    Hey Walt,
     
    I would say that you should just stick with what you have until there is a release that has something you consider essential. Then just do what we always did and buy up to a year's membership and you'll get 12 months of updates to go along with it. That way it really isn't any different than buying one of the yearly updates every few years.
     
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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/07 21:34:47 (permalink)
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    Hey Walt,
     
    I would say that you should just stick with what you have until there is a release that has something you consider essential. Then just do what we always did and buy up to a year's membership and you'll get 12 months of updates to go along with it. That way it really isn't any different than buying one of the yearly updates every few years.
     
    Regards,
    Dan


    This is what I'm doing (because I stupidly ignored the 'lifetime updates' offer last year).
     
    You OWN the Sonar license, the monthly membership just gives you updates.  To make the initial cost less of a hit, they're offering to sell new licensees the same license, but with the fees split into 12 monthly payments.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/07 21:34:54 (permalink)
    *double post*

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/08 15:19:16 (permalink)
    Walt Collins
     
     
    Every prior product had support that didn't end after 12 months. Just feels like a bait and switch to me, and cakewalk lost a lot of my respect (and my business) when they did this crap back in 2015. They do not reward my many years of loyalty.
     
     


    Actually are you wrong about this part.  All your previous versions of Sonar only came with a limited time of support.  You claim you upgraded every year, so you never experienced that.  But if you stuck with say "Sonar 7" by the time "Sonar 8.5" came out, your version would not be supported.  Nothing has changed on that front generally speaking.  
     
    If you are so active with Sonar, you are telling us that you missed the lifetime updates offer that lasted for a half a year?  
     
    You own the version you purchased.
     
    If you purchased every upgrade since ProAudio 8, then why did you stop paying for a yearly upgrade this year?  
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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/08 16:48:57 (permalink)
    Upgrades used to run around $99. Now it's closer to $200. Huge difference, and I suspect a part of the Gibson plan. It seems like they figured it would sell better if they raised the price, much like the guitars.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/08 16:49:33 (permalink)
    As for your claim that older versions of SONAR weren't supported for more than one year, I think that's false. Of course, we couldn't expect many new features to come out via updates after purchasing a specific version, but we could still expect bugfixes, and security and compatibility updates, even after a newer versioned product came out. The older products transitioned into "maintenance" updates only, without new features. But the older products never felt "abandoned" back then. Now they do.
     
    Regardless, I am no longer using SONAR as my main DAW. I use it sometimes for mastering, or take comping. But even that happens rarely as I am finding other workflows. At the time of the lifetime updates offer I had already switched and wasn't looking to give Cakewalk more of my money for a product I was no longer using.
     
    Bottom line is that I'm probably not coming back to SONAR. It's not out of spite. It's because I use an Ableton Push 2 as my main midi input controller, and SONAR doesn't support it (neither directly, nor via Rewire). But I still keep SONAR around for occasional use. I'm fine with the version of SONAR that I already have not getting new features.
     
    Of course, if SONAR somehow announced Push controller support, that might make it more viable for me. But I'm not holding my breath.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/09 10:45:55 (permalink)
    Walt Collins
    Of course, if SONAR somehow announced Push controller support, that might make it more viable for me. But I'm not holding my breath.

    "Sweet dreams are made of this, Who am I to disagree?" (Eurythmics)
     
    Seriously. Ableton has published Push protocol, for enthusiast: https://github.com/Ableton/push-interface/blob/master/doc/AbletonPush2MIDIDisplayInterface.asc
    As all Control Surfaces, it just provides a set of elements which can be operated from the computer. So some quality pads, buttons, encoders, LEDs and the display. I will say worse $300 retail (probably around $100 in production). You pay extra $300 to Ableton for the SOFTWARE which "integrates" that (dumb, as all surfaces) device into Ableton Live. But no single cent from that money go to Cakewalk.
    That is like wishing all music CDs should be free, because I have payed for one CD and I have just bought nice and expensive CD player 
     
    In some cases ("common standard" like MCU, generic MIDI controller) it is worse to invest into the "feature" from the DAW side. In other cases (NKS, Console 1), not much should be done for the integration since 95% of the software is provided by device producer. But not in case of Push, which requires the "driver" written from scratch for complete integration.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/09 13:35:13 (permalink)
    Push

     
    i'm still happily using an apc-40 as i'm too lazy (and g.a.s poor!) to google the differences

    just a sec

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/09 16:18:26 (permalink)
    Walt Collins...



    i think your post disappeared?

    just a sec

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/09 20:04:41 (permalink)
    I posted a few paragraphs maybe 4 hours ago, but it's missing now. What happened to it?

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/09 20:07:15 (permalink)
    reposting... hopefully just a software glitch.
     
    pwalpwal
    Push

     
    i'm still happily using an apc-40 as i'm too lazy (and g.a.s poor!) to google the differences



    I don't use the Push for triggering clips. I use it as a midi instrument interface. Like a keyboard, but in a different configuration. The pads on the Push 2 are very responsive, expressive, and intuitive, and I find I can play quick runs FASTER on the Push than on a traditional keyboard. I've got an Akai MPK61, as well as a Yamaha Motif ES8 (piano weighted 88 key) sitting right next to it, but I find I go to the Push much more often when performing on a track.
     
    I use the Push when playing synths, drums, orchestral, horns, bass, synth guitars, and yes, sometimes even piano/keys tracks, depending on the song, and my mood that day.
     
    Anyway, I don't have any expectation of Push integration into SONAR. But I certainly wouldn't complain if it happened. And Cakewalk might even get some more of my money if so. But I doubt Push support is a real big market for them, so I kinda doubt it.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/09 21:11:12 (permalink)
    Forums anti-spam protection periodically filter out messages... Hosts can restore such posts (and they do when asked).
     
    As a synth MIDI controller, I expect Push should work in Sonar. I mean just pads as keys. Is that not so?
     
    I ask because many parts of the integration, except the display (I just do not have required components, slowly moving in that direction) and launching Sonar Matrix View with feedback (not supported by Sonar), I can implement on my own.
    If you describe what exactly you what from Push in Sonar, I can give (definitive) answer:
    (a) either that is possible at all without Sonar modifications
    (b) how hard/long it can take to implement particular features
     

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/09 21:32:48 (permalink)
    I'm afraid any Push integration will be missing the LED display, which I don't think Ableton has provided an API for. This alone may make work on it pointless.
     
    Truth be told, there's already a generic Push driver solution out there, and it (kinda) works with SONAR. It's called "Shove". https://www.silenceandsound.com/
     
    I've purchased and tested it with a few different DAWs, but it has reliability issues, and doesn't include the LED display as I mentioned above.
     
    Anyway, we're getting a bit off topic here. This thread is actually about the Cakewalk marketing emails I have been receiving, and the status of my Cakewalk products purchase history. ;) And I think we've pretty much covered all that already.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/10 11:56:11 (permalink)
    Sorry for moving the thread off topic. I try to help other users with controllers in Sonar. For that I try to collect as much information/feedback/experience/wishes as possible, whenever there is an opportunity.
     
    From our short conversation, I have already learned what is required to support such type of controllers. There is one show stopper which prevents that (there is workaround, but it is inconvenient and error/glitches prone)  and it already was in my "wishes" list. Its priority get higher now.
    That is small extra interface (as an extension to ACT API), to allow Control Surfaces plug-ins manipulate incoming MIDI messages before they are sent to the track/matrix. The change is probably about 100-200 lines of code inside Sonar, I mean not comparable in time to implement vs complete Push support.
     
    Walt Collins
    I'm afraid any Push integration will be missing the LED display, which I don't think Ableton has provided an API for.

    They provide it!

    This alone may make work on it pointless.

    Most controller have no display. So that is not completely pointless. But as I wrote, Ableton allows everyone to use it.
     

    Truth be told, there's already a generic Push driver solution out there, and it (kinda) works with SONAR. It's called "Shove". https://www.silenceandsound.com/

    Thanks for the link. It gives me an idea what some integration can/should do.
     
    I do not have Push and I do not have time at the moment (several other surface/sonar related projects ongoing, several other already pending). But I will keep the information in mind. Who knows, may be once I have graphical lib (in progress) to update the display, a bit of time and someone to alpha/beta test, I will give it a try

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/10 13:19:47 (permalink)
    I may be able to find some time to help you test your Push 2 integration into SONAR (if/when you have something to test), as I would be interested in seeing it work.
     
    But I'm curious why you say that Ableton provides the API for the internal display of the Push. According to the video here (https://youtu.be/JQFgwzdDNAc), the guy said it wouldn't be possible to use the Push's display with other DAWs, based on the documentation he presented. Do you have additional documentation?

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/10 15:43:29 (permalink)
    Walt Collins
    I may be able to find some time to help you test your Push 2 integration into SONAR (if/when you have something to test), as I would be interested in seeing it work.

    That is good to know.
     
    If you are interested, have a look at the Push MIDI layout (the link at the end). Unlike most "normal" MIDI controllers, push always sends the same messages from the same controls. That is not configurable. For Control Surfaces that is not bad, in fact that is good! The user can not modify the hardware and so there is no chance they do something wrong. Mackie (Emagic Logic) Control went that way, with fixed, not configurable layouts. One is usually referenced as "Mackie Control Protocol" and the other "HUI/ProTools protocol" (the difference is what each control is sending, only (!) that). And they become de-facto Control Surface standard!
     
    But Mackie whole device is to be used as a Control Surface, only. I can make your Push control transport, volumes, pans, plug-ins in Sonar within an hour (without display, but also without any external utilities. You can even do this yourself, after watching my "Startup preset" YouTube video). But...
     
    Pads. Normal MIDI controllers have keys as chromatic scale, with hardware "up/down", sometimes hardware arpegiators. And knobs/faders can be configured to send arbitrary messages for MIDI Learn in plug-ins. But
    Push simply does not have that "module" in its hardware/firmware, leaving all translation up to computer. The problem is that many (most?) DAWs do not have facility for such translation, not even an "interface" to which some external facility can be attached. So, without doing anything, you can play notes 36-92 in any DAW, that thats it. Chromatic scale only and "bottom to top". So what are the options to translate these notes into "right" one (in scale, up to down chromatic, etc)?
    a) original way. DAW translates these fixed notes into target, also highlighting pad LEDs. And then feed the result (instead of original MIDI stream!) as MIDI input. That is how Ableton does that. In Sonar, I can translate... but there is no internal way to "send back" translated messages (the feature request I have mentioned before). But I can send to external MIDI Loopback, which than can send them to Sonar (disadvantages: requires external program running, tricky, error prone and can introduce some jitter/delays...)
    b) use external MIDI translator with MIDI loopback. For example the utility you have linked before. Or some generic MIDI translators (BOM, MidiOx, etc), obviously someone has to write proper "mapping tables" for that.
    c) record "as is", but use on track tools to translate. In Sonar, that can be done with MIDI FX (MFX). I have an MFX which can do the job (AZ Lua) or write specialized. Advantage: each track can have pre-configured mapping, saved with the project and switched when you change tracks, I guess like in Ableton. Well, almost, since... Disadvantages: no LED feedback (MFX has no way to send LED messages back to Push), what you see in the Piano Roll is still original MIDI, till you permanently "render" MFX... but after that it should be disables, so "punch in" can not be used.
     
    Sorry for the long text, but I have thought may be you and/or other are interested how Push is really working 
     

    But I'm curious why you say that Ableton provides the API for the internal display of the Push. According to the video here (https://youtu.be/JQFgwzdDNAc), the guy said it wouldn't be possible to use the Push's display with other DAWs, based on the documentation he presented. Do you have additional documentation?

    https://github.com/Ableton/push-interface/blob/master/doc/AbletonPush2MIDIDisplayInterface.asc
     

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/11 12:05:18 (permalink)
    That's the same document that was referred to in the video I mentioned. In section 1.2 it shows that the Push display interface is only controllable by Ableton Live (and not by "other application", i.e. SONAR). And that's the problem.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/11 14:41:12 (permalink)
    Walt Collins
    That's the same document that was referred to in the video I mentioned. In section 1.2 it shows that the Push display interface is only controllable by Ableton Live (and not by "other application", i.e. SONAR). And that's the problem.

    Well... the man on video is NOT the developer, he is just a user (the developers wrote "Big thanks to Cee Lopez for creating this walkthrough video!").
    The man claim 2 things: "You have to be... to understand that thing" and "... I do understand this".
    I fact he shows and mention that the documentation includes Display section (the section 3, even with the source code for this display specific instructions). And then he say the display can not be controller (why? I do not know).
     
    BTW for a system programmer, the diagram, MIDI and Display section are easy to understand.
     
    I think Shove does not display anything useful not because it can not, but because:
    a) that is significant work, but more important
    b) they do not have the information to display.
    While sending "inputs keys" is DAW independent, there is no common way to get track parameters, names, etc. Each DAW has its own API (for Sonar that is ACT).
     
    I understand that you have no reason to trust me more then the person in the video. A program which show your name on Push's display could be a good prove. But other then fun, I do not see a point to do this at the moment: It takes some time to write, I can only debug on your computer remotely and the only result will be "cool! we can do this", but nothing really useful.

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/12 11:47:57 (permalink)
    Okay cool, that may offer some hope that Push 2 can work (properly) with SONAR. Could be great news some day. :)

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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/13 13:11:32 (permalink)
    Walt,
     
    Alex is pretty smart. He wrote the AzCtrl controller plugin that allows many control surfaces to work with Sonar. He helped me with mine. You can trust him.
     
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    Re: do I own SONAR Platinum or not??? 2017/11/13 22:25:49 (permalink)
    Thanks Dan. That counts as a good reference to me. :)

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