does 1db matter?

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2011/07/04 14:01:07 (permalink)

does 1db matter?

just wondering.

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    drewfx1
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 14:15:39 (permalink)
    Yes and no.

    It depends.

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 14:33:16 (permalink)
    In all cases yes!
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 14:33:51 (permalink)
    On the latest mix of The 4th of July (http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2337928), Bapu lowered my guitar tracks by .5db, as both he and Danny thought they were a bit too loud on the choruses.  Similarly, when I was mixing Rough Patch (also in Songs) I found myself nudging things in increments lower than 1 db.

    I guess, as Drew stated, it does depend, and I would add it depends on the song, how many tracks there are and how many tracks are in similar frequency ranges.  Both of my tunes that I mentioned were pretty dense that way, and I believe that those small increments in addition to some EQ carving made a difference.
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 14:48:09 (permalink)
    ok, it's settled then.

    how many dbs is it from the top of a node to the bottom of a node?

    just wonderin.

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 15:08:00 (permalink)
    Every db matters. A decibel is a terrible thing to waste.


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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 15:17:34 (permalink)
     
    does 1db matter?
     
    No, of course not Tim.
     
     
     
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 15:50:04 (permalink)
    1db matters if you are the busiest mastering engineer in town.

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 15:59:25 (permalink)
    Yes.

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 16:01:25 (permalink)
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    Yes.

    Are you sure?


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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 16:06:24 (permalink)
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    alexoosthoek


    Yes.

    Are you sure?

     
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 16:07:18 (permalink)
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    bapu


    alexoosthoek


    Yes.

    Are you sure?

     
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 17:09:48 (permalink)
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    alexoosthoek


    Yes.

    Are you sure?

     
    Cannae ye not speak Dutch or summat


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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/04 19:31:33 (permalink)
    What is the sound of one lip flapping?

     
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 09:35:28 (permalink)
    whats a "1db" anyway?

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 09:50:51 (permalink)
    timidi


    ok, it's settled then.

    how many dbs is it from the top of a node to the bottom of a node?

    just wonderin.


    the node is only a visual cue; the actual point is the center of the node and the nodes have a resolution of 0.1dB.  so I guess you could say that from the top is +0.05dB and the bottom is -0.05dB from center, but that's just a nomenclature since it doesn't really matter.  they could make the visual cue of the node 5dB if they wanted and it wouldn't change the resolution that the node uses for incrementing up and down the dB scale of the volume of that track/clip.

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 09:55:57 (permalink)
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    timidi


    ok, it's settled then.

    how many dbs is it from the top of a node to the bottom of a node?

    just wonderin.


    the node is only a visual cue; the actual point is the center of the node and the nodes have a resolution of 0.1dB.  so I guess you could say that from the top is +0.05dB and the bottom is -0.05dB from center, but that's just a nomenclature since it doesn't really matter.  they could make the visual cue of the node 5dB if they wanted and it wouldn't change the resolution that the node uses for incrementing up and down the dB scale of the volume of that track/clip.

     
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 11:07:54 (permalink)
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    And a real studio
     
     

    I think you may be confusing CJ with Beagle?

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 11:42:08 (permalink)
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    SteveStrummerUK

     
    And a real studio
     
     

    I think you may be confusing CJ with Beagle?


    There is no confusing CJ? Or is there?

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 12:42:07 (permalink)
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    timidi


    ok, it's settled then.

    how many dbs is it from the top of a node to the bottom of a node?

    just wonderin.


    the node is only a visual cue; the actual point is the center of the node and the nodes have a resolution of 0.1dB.  so I guess you could say that from the top is +0.05dB and the bottom is -0.05dB from center, but that's just a nomenclature since it doesn't really matter.  they could make the visual cue of the node 5dB if they wanted and it wouldn't change the resolution that the node uses for incrementing up and down the dB scale of the volume of that track/clip.

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 13:29:40 (permalink)
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    And a real studio
     
     

    I think you may be confusing CJ with Beagle?


     
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 13:32:29 (permalink)
    Although, they did wonder why he used a stock photo as his studio pic...
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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 13:34:23 (permalink)
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    bapu


    SteveStrummerUK

     
    And a real studio
     
     

    I think you may be confusing CJ with Beagle?


     
    Eduardo, there is an as yet undiscovered tribe of blind and deaf pygmies living in caves three miles underground in the Amazon jungle who do not confuse CJ with our Beag
     
     
     
    Are they cannibals? (beagibals?)

    If Beagle visits the Amazon, should he carry a Soundblaster card with him at all times (just to be safe)?

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 13:36:54 (permalink)
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    Although, they did wonder why he used a stock photo as his studio pic...

     
     
    No, they knew why he did that
     
    I believe "Kwij doklip bimbleploop hezzblart jikistrew!" translates as "It would be ridiculous to simply use a pic of his bedroom"

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 13:38:09 (permalink)
    Oh, decibel!  I've been watching too many cop show where it means Dead Body.  In that case, it would matter to the DB!   

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 13:43:14 (permalink)
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    timidi


    ok, it's settled then.

    how many dbs is it from the top of a node to the bottom of a node?

    just wonderin.


    the node is only a visual cue; the actual point is the center of the node and the nodes have a resolution of 0.1dB.  so I guess you could say that from the top is +0.05dB and the bottom is -0.05dB from center, but that's just a nomenclature since it doesn't really matter.  they could make the visual cue of the node 5dB if they wanted and it wouldn't change the resolution that the node uses for incrementing up and down the dB scale of the volume of that track/clip.


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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 17:10:52 (permalink)

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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 18:35:22 (permalink)
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    timidi


    ok, it's settled then.

    how many dbs is it from the top of a node to the bottom of a node?

    just wonderin.


    the node is only a visual cue; the actual point is the center of the node and the nodes have a resolution of 0.1dB.  so I guess you could say that from the top is +0.05dB and the bottom is -0.05dB from center, but that's just a nomenclature since it doesn't really matter.  they could make the visual cue of the node 5dB if they wanted and it wouldn't change the resolution that the node uses for incrementing up and down the dB scale of the volume of that track/clip.


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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 18:55:17 (permalink)

    It was a drag and drop response.

    I may use it tomorrow.



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    Re:does 1db matter? 2011/07/05 19:44:57 (permalink)
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    It was a drag and drop response.

    I may use it tomorrow.

    I'll open the Media Browser then.....
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