drum techniques ...?

I'm not too good with drums but I am hoping to learn. I've got Sonar Home so theres no step sequencer in there but I am using the PRV to do the same job. Are there any good tutorials our there about how to construct a good sounding drum beat. I found one: http://www.iub.edu/~emusic/361/drumpatterns.htm So I am looking for more like that (hopefully video, a a website link is OK)...

Here is MPD/MPC master Jeremy Ellis' series on finger drumming. Although he is playing live on a pad controller you can glean a lot of how to put together drum parts from these vids. http://www.youtube.com/wa...E&list=RD02VWBR20IxpTo

Also here's a vid series on Groove3 about drum theory. http://www.groove3.com/str/drumming-explained.html You have to pay for it though but there are a couple free sample vids on that list you can check out. I haven't watched the series myself but Eli Krantzberg vids are insanely helpful IMO so it's probably worth paying for a month membership ($15 right now apparently) or buying the download for $25.

Thanks Chuck, for the basic overview on 3 ways to midi drums.
It's easy to get confused until you have used it enough times.

I found this very helpful when I was starting with PRV programming:

An interesting MFX, the NTONYX Style Enhancer Micro 2.0 was recently been updated to run on 64bit SONAR http://www.ntonyx.com/sem20.htm It has a free demo. For years SONAR included the demo version. It is another way to add a different feel to drums (or any other MIDI instrument).

Looking at the DAW you have in your signature.... I'd suggest buying MC6 at a minimum. It has a bunch of drum loops and patterns in it.  For the price, you can't go wrong.

I used to construct drum patterns this way.... one at a time. 

Since most common songs are based on a 4 measure repeating pattern, this works.  

Start by constructing a basic drum patter that is one measure long.... kick, snare, ride, then copy it to 4 measures total. Now copy it again to 4 more measures and edit it in the new 4..... add something else to vary it. Copy that 8 measure and paste and vary a few measures in that. Before long you have a complete verse or chorus that can be copied and pasted as needed. 

Another method is to get something like Jamstix 3 and let JS3 do all the work for you. Grab the demo and explore it. 

Yes.
While MC6 uses the newer X1 interface, it is limited in many ways compared to SHS6.
The Studio Instruments drums included with MC6 are not quite as sophisticated as Session Drummer 2, which you have with SHS6XL.

Drag some of the patterns from SD2 into your MIDI track. Then view them in PRV as Sidroe suggested.
You'll find some of the more interesting patterns in the Swing and Shuffle sets.

thanks for the videos very helpful

Hi there
Im really new to this but this question on drums is actually something im stuck on myself.  I have a ton of groove monkey loops but they are all "over played" as one user said earlier in this thread.  I'd like to "tap" out some basic 4 4 patterns etc but i have no idea what either PRV or step sequencer is.  Im using X2 Essential by the way.
Cheers 

Beepster


Also here's a vid series on Groove3 about drum theory. http://www.groove3.com/str/drumming-explained.html You have to pay for it though but there are a couple free sample vids on that list you can check out. I haven't watched the series myself but Eli Krantzberg vids are insanely helpful IMO so it's probably worth paying for a month membership ($15 right now apparently) or buying the download for $25.

Ive watched this, and, having been a drummer for the past 35 years I can highly recommend this.  I was sceptical at first but, actually it's a really really good video.  Eli explains things in terms of a DAW really well. Worth every penny.