Bansaw
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dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of Dubstep. Some of it is good. But I am wondering how to produce that trademark wobble. I think its using some kind of modulation but not sure how to do it in Sonar. (I have Sonar Home 6XL by the way)
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/21 13:34:06
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NI massive
z3ta probably can too
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Bansaw
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/21 13:53:35
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Thats not already in Sonar Home 6Xl is it? By the way, is that a Spectrum 48k rubber key in your avatar?
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/21 21:02:35
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I'm trying out a few things and gettnig a wobbling effect from the Classic Phaser, FX2 Tape Sim and Multivoice Chorus add to it.
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/21 21:17:32
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yep it's the "FOR" key of the speccy reworked. I collect 8 bit machines.
it's to do with the LFO rate on the synth .. that affects the wobble, that n pitch bend if you assign it.
you can make it on TAL bassline also.. but lots of synths that have 2 osc's can make it.
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/21 21:20:34
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Although not wobble, if you're looking at some other dubstep type sounds too, this plugin, Glitch, is great and free. http://illformed.org/plugins/
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/21 21:26:39
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Judging from the number of times I've read the question on various forums, I've come to believe that infamous dubstep wobble is the new cher effect and that it is to music what the duckface is to photography. ;) 
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Bansaw
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/22 09:29:42
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Although not wobble, if you're looking at some other dubstep type sounds too, this plugin, Glitch, is great and free. http://illformed.org/plugins/ Can you automate (keyframe) the parameters of Glitch? eg: have the frequency for example increase as the track plays...
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/22 09:37:30
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It has been a while since I played with it but I believe Glitch uses MIDI for automation.
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/22 09:48:40
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Rain
Judging from the number of times I've read the question on various forums, I've come to believe that infamous dubstep wobble is the new cher effect and that it is to music what the duckface is to photography. ;)
it's been asked before many times over the years.. except the name changes.. "new" hardly, it's a case of everyone has jumped on that bandwagon to try to get money from it.. nothing to do with the music.. same happened with UK garage and Jungle to a point. e.g.. how to make a reece bass , with jungle.. the other craze I noticed of late is stripping back old songs to just have a singer + a piano or harp or guitar... or something like that. some songs should never be covered... but it does work for a few *IF* they have put in the work with the arrangement also.
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/22 09:57:00
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It has been a while since I played with it but I believe Glitch uses MIDI for automation. Being kind-of new to automation and midi envelopes, I wonder how you can assign, lets say a Frequency control to a midi envelope ? I know how to draw midi envelopes for the pitch wheel etc, but not how to keyframe (automate) a control on a VST...
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/22 10:13:00
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The plug-in has to have the ability to listen for MIDI events. I suspect Glitch will need to have the "Configure as Synth" checked in it's properties in the Cakewalk Plug-in manager, that is the usual way to get FX plug-ins to use MIDI. Then when you insert the plug-in into the FX bin, add a MIDI track and assign the output to the plug-in. The MIDI track will drive the parameters that you setup in the plug-in. I am pretty sure there is a pdf included with the product that should help.
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/22 16:15:33
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The basic wobble is among the easiest sounds to create on most synths. Take any synth you have, create a bass patch to taste and simply assign the LFO to the cutoff. I'm by no means a synth programmer of any considerable skill and I can do it. I'm not sure which synths were included in that version but any subtractive synth will do it with ease depending on the type of "wobble". The more screeching types like skrillex uses may be harder with included plugins but there are plenty of freebies that will do the trick. personally, I'm not a fan of the direction dubstp has taken from it's roots but I suppose change is inevitable
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Re:dubstep wobble in Sonar - what do you use ?
2013/05/22 16:29:16
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btw, I have successfully created that sound in Pentagon, PSYNII and z3ta+(2). Never tried on any other Sonar synth but I am sure process is the same.Pentagon created the warmer style reminiscent of older dubstep type songs that were sparser in content and heavily low end oriented. Z3ta creates a greater variety, including the squelchier (is that a word) types that have migrated into pop music. It can't quite get that FM noisy growl that one can get with FM8 but I am sure a better programmer could get closer to it than me.
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