entering and analyzing chords

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2015/08/22 13:57:22 (permalink)

entering and analyzing chords

A friend of mine just showed me how he enters chords in Cubase and then uses Chord analyzer to suggest other chords.  Does either of  these exist in Cakewalk Producer (do not have sonar)
 
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    Beepster
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    Re: entering and analyzing chords 2015/08/22 14:22:50 (permalink)
    AAS strum seems to do this to a certain extent but in the context of guitar chords (which you can then figure all sorts of stuff out from). Not sure what other options are available within Sonar but that's kind of a cool one.
     
    Previously, since I'm a guitar player, I had absolutely no use for Strum but after learning about it more and playing around with it the fact it will display and output really crazy chords based on minimal input is actually kind of cool and helpful.
     
    Example: I could hit 3 random notes on my keyboard controller through AAS and it will output a full six string chord based on that AND show each note in the fretboard diagram. Then I can rip the chord apart from there and try out other stuff, input it into the PRV or Staff View or whatever. There are some options for making the chords voice in different ways too so that adds extra ways to view it.
     
    Not ideal because it's guitar voicings but a clever person can learn a lot about chords by working with it in this manner. I would probably never use it for it's audio output (unless I was doing something I wanted to sound intentionally synthesized) but it's an easy way to figure out chord extensions easily.
     
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    Re: entering and analyzing chords 2015/08/22 14:43:04 (permalink)
    Well, everyone is looking for a DAW that does everything, but not all do everything well. The best way to analyze chords is to use your brain, but the background in theory takes a fair amount of work. Most self trained musicians forget how much work it took, since it is usually gleaned in pieces over time, rather than a semester at music school. If you want a simple way to play with chords that has an immediate feedback and a relatively painless way to try things out, you might want to look at Hookpad. It is purpose built for allowing you to muck with progressions, and get your ears on, but it is not really a substitute for a more intellectual study. Both have their advantages. Asking your DAW and plugins to do this is a lot to ask. 
     
    http://www.hooktheory.com/hookpad/
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    Re: entering and analyzing chords 2015/08/22 15:22:08 (permalink)
    Sundog Scale Studio also a nice one http://feelyoursound.com/sundog/
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    Re: entering and analyzing chords 2015/08/23 09:49:55 (permalink)
    I created a Chord Library of sampled guitar chords that's accessible from SONAR's browser. The way the browser is set up you can click on chords to hear them. So I just drag chords into the timeline. When I can't decide which chord should come next, I click until I find one that's right.
     
    I also created a Dim Pro instrument that maps the chords to keys so I can play chord progressions in real time. I find either of these methods better than a purely algorithmic way of doing things.
     
    As to analysis, Strum works as described previously, but there's also the Chord Analyzer MIDI plug-in included with SONAR.

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    Re: entering and analyzing chords 2015/08/23 11:12:05 (permalink)
    Cubase just updated the GUI and made it even easier to use. It's now called "Chord Assistant" and it is very, very impressive. It's built into the DAW and makes it so easy to combine the writing and recording process (it's almost one step). I can only pray to see it in Sonar one day.
    Furthermore, it would be really nice to finally update the arpeggiator in Sonar. I believe it needs a GUI and not just built into the track inspector strip. It would be amazing to merge the arpeggiator into the chord maker interface. That way you'll end up with one GUI for creating chords and arpeggiator patterns.
    I don't think it's too much to ask as Sonar is already built to view/enter/edit midi data in multiple GUIs. Like the Step Sequencer for example. This can and should be implemented in the same way as the Step Sequencer- just a GUI for entering and editing midi notes/chords/arps.
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    Re: entering and analyzing chords 2015/08/23 11:34:19 (permalink)
    A Cubase type chord track would certainly be welcome in Splat!

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