ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6

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2012/06/17 14:46:08 (permalink)

ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6

when i drag and drop ezdrummer loops to music creater 6 and then press play i can only hear bass drum some high hat and occasional snare but not consistant
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    57Gregy
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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/18 00:22:22 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum.
    What synth are you playing the MIDI drums through?
    Open the MIDI track's Piano Roll view (PRV) and click on the drum names on the left. Do the drums sound when you click the same instrument name as the loop's notes, or do you hear drums on notes other than those in the drum loop?
    Possibly the EZD loops are not General MIDI (GM) mapped.

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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/18 08:42:18 (permalink)
    tell us about the computer and the sound card you are using. some factory sound cards will do that. 

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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/18 12:58:45 (permalink)
    stock soundcard on laptop. planning on getting a usb interface will that help
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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/18 14:08:37 (permalink)
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    Welcome to the forum.
    What synth are you playing the MIDI drums through?
    Open the MIDI track's Piano Roll view (PRV) and click on the drum names on the left. Do the drums sound when you click the same instrument name as the loop's notes, or do you hear drums on notes other than those in the drum loop?
    Possibly the EZD loops are not General MIDI (GM) mapped.

    yes - this is likely the problem.
     
    go to the toontrack website where you registered EZD.  sign into your account.  go to DOWNLOADS.  look for the USER AREA and find the DRUM MAPS.  download the drum maps for EZD and  any of the EZX kits you have.
     
    follow the directions on where to install them.
     
    then change the OUTPUT of your MIDI track to DRUM MAP>EZD
     
    then it should work right.

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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/18 16:46:26 (permalink)
    does not have a drum map for music creater 6
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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/18 17:42:30 (permalink)
    you don't need to map the drums.

    My guess is that when you get a decent sound card the missing notes will be s non issue. 

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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/19 06:08:07 (permalink)
    the drum maps for sonar are the same for MC6.

    Herb, do you have EZ Drummer?  there are some hits which are not GM mapped depending on the MIDI loops and the drum hits you're trying to trigger, thus a drum map is needed.
     
    according to the EZD Manual:
    Furthermore, if GM compatibility is important to you, you should always program your tracks using notes between 36 (C1) and 60 (C3) only. This is to ensure accurate playback on GM compatible devices (cymbal chokes notwithstanding).
    Technical note: all notes in the range 35 to 60 are GM compliant with the following exceptions -
    39 (clap), 54 (tambourine), 58 (vibraslap), 60 (bongo).
     
    so if you aren't using a drum map, you won't hear those hits at all. 

     
    What Herb (Guitarhacker) says about the sound card CAN be the issue.  I'm not saying he's wrong.  but the information that you don't need a drum map is not correct.
     
    if the soundcard is causing the problem there ARE alternatives we can try before you buy a soundcard which will give you more certainty that the problem is the soundcard.  and those things might be able to help you to get along until you can afford a real soundcard.
      


     
    post edited by Beagle - 2012/06/19 06:32:15

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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/19 08:53:55 (permalink)
    owwwww! no, I don't think I have EZ drummer. And I don't think I'll buy it just to learn how to do mapping. Session Drummer and Jamstix are the ones I have but as you know, I rarely use either these days. 

    I've seen a few people come here in the past want to build drum maps and really didn't need to do that, but that might have been with a different synth. 

    Drum maps, I have never had to do that..... I guess I misspoke on that one. 
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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/19 08:55:30 (permalink)
    dang .... ignore duplicate



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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/19 09:40:24 (permalink)
    Session Drummer 2 & 3 and Studio Instruments are all GM mapped as far as I know.  They MIGHT have some open/closed high hat differences which might need a map, but again, I've not delved into them enough to figure it out because I just don't ever use them so I don't have the time to spend on them.

    But EZD, Superior, Addictive Drums, Battery, all the big ones have mapping extended beyond GM because GM doesn't cover enough mapping.  And of course they're not standard to each other, either, which I hate.  I wish GM would be updated to include all of the mapping that is extended beyond the original drum hits in the spec from the '70's.  then maybe at least all of the them would use the SAME map.  one map would be highly beneficial to all.

    I suspect the way that Jamstix gets around this problem is with the outputs.  I would bet that all mapping is done internally and hits such as open/closed HH are routed internally to the correct output that you open in JS.  that way you wouldn't have to have a separate map.

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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/26 23:32:17 (permalink)
     They MIGHT have some open/closed high hat differences which might need a map, but again, I've not delved into them enough to figure it out because I just don't ever use them so I don't have the time to spend on them. 
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    Re:ez drummer issues in cakewalk music creater 6 2012/06/27 03:23:09 (permalink)
    The OP really likes to keep us guessing as he's not able to give a clear picture of the situation, but this is my interpretation:
    I understand the question so, that the OP is using EZDrummer with EZDrunmmer loops, as he doesn't mention anything else (and the title is "EZD issue"), and thus he has no need to map anything. If he hears "occasional snare", shouldn't the mapping be in order?? Or are there several keys used for snare in EZD?

    If the hits are randomly skipped, the most likely solution is to double the buffer size in "MIDI buffers...prepare using xx ms buffers"
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