The Layman
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Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
I'm using SHS6XL on an HP Pavillion laptop with Windows Vista 32-bit. I am using the laptop's Conexant soundcard as my audio output device. This is not ideal, I know, but I'm making due, for now. I've this software on this machine, before, but for some reason the soft synths are not working. The built-in wavetable synth does work. But the TTS-1 will not. Nor will the Groovesynth or any of the other included synths. I've run the setup routines about a bajillion times, but no luck. The meters on the TTS-1 are not even lighting up. If I press the sound demo buttons, they light up, but no sound. . . I'm using the MME drivers, although, I have the same issue with the driver selection that many have described. The drivermode utility seems to have fixed that, so it's just an issue with the synths. I suspect there may be a driver issue with my soundcard, but I'm pretty sure that I'm using the same driver that I've always used. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you! Feel free to reply to me directly at etlayman@gmail.com.
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 00:50:32
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Just an update on this situation. . . I rolled my soundcard driver all the way back to the original one from 2006. It actually solved the audio options dialog issue, and I'm able to switch between the ASIO/MME/WDM without the utility. But the soft synths still don't want to work. . . Any suggestions would be awesome. If you can fix it, you will officially be in my cool book.
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 08:57:16
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The Layman
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 10:08:30
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Thanks, Beagle. But that procedure only addresses the issue with the audio options dialog not working. I solved that issue by rolling back my soundcard driver. The issue is that the included soft synths are not producing any sound. The level indicators on the TTS-1 aren't even flashing, like they aren't receiving the MIDI data. The wavetable synth from my soundcard works fine, so I'm sure it's an issue with the software, and not the hardware. I will give this a try, though. I haven't tried doing that, since I rolled back the Conexant driver. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 10:30:49
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sorry.
are you setting the properties for the CHANNEL, BANK and PATCH on the MIDI track properties, or are you trying to do that on the GUI of the TTS-1? you must set those on the track properties.
is your output for the MIDI track set properly to the TTS-1?
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 10:43:32
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I've got every channel, bank, and patch set properly. . . I'm sure. I've walked through the setup several times with the manual in my hand. I'm using Vista with SP2, so I'm wondering if there is just something in those 2+ years of updates that is banging into the soft synths. The fact that the old soundcard driver seems to work better with the Cakewalk software is pushing me that way, too. . . I haven't tried to use this software on this laptop for about 2 years. Maybe it's just irony that it worked fine before Vista was fixed and doesn't want to work on it, now. . . It's vexing. Although, if I set up the laptop to dual boot to a drive that doesn't have all the Vista upgrades, that may be a solution worth trying. Seems like a waste of space on the hard drive, though. I'll let you know if I find a fix. I appreciate your attention.
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 12:18:42
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open your synth rack and make sure you don't have more than one instance of TTS-1 open, and if so, you could be sending the MIDI to the wrong one.
also, there's a setting in the synth rack that might need to be changed, but I'm not at my DAW to remember it exactly. I think you find it in the OPTIONS icon on the synth rack and it brings the pop up window back up that you get when you insert the softsynths ,and you should check the ONE OUTPUT box and there's another box called ENABLE MIDI OUTPUT or something similar.
if that doesn't work, I'd suggest deleting TTS-1 from the synth rack and then reinserting it.
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 18:57:03
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Well. . . If I use the TTS-1 or any other soft synth (besides the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth), it acts like there is not even a synth present. . . If I have 2 midi tracks and one is set to use the Wavetable and the other the TTS-1, then the wavetable track plays, but the TTS-1 does not. If I have only one midi track, it plays fine on the wavetable, but not on the TTS-1. It doesn't even move. Seems like there's an input/output problem, but for the life of me, I can't figure out where it is. . . In conclusion, "Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. . ."
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/19 21:36:14
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ok, tell me the outputs of each of your tracks, exactly what do they say?
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The Layman
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Re:Soft Synths not working in Sonar HS 6. . .
2009/11/20 20:02:40
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Well. . . I fixed it. I was right that there is something in the Windows Vista updates that was causing a problem with the soft synths, although I didn't figure out exactly what it was. Actually, I don't know for a fact that it was anything with Windows, but it was evidently a cumulative software conflict. My solution: I installed a completely bare-bones, stripped down, right-out-of-the-box-from-2007 version of Vista with no updates, and as I suspected, everything works fine, again. Of course, I will now have to redo my whole laptop to accomodate a dual-booted OS, but it's a good way to have my recording stuff set apart from all of the other junk that runs on my laptop. Thanks very much for your help with this. I really appreciate it. I will keep you posted and let you know if anything goes pear-shaped with it, but I think the problem is solved.
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