A1MixMan
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/20 17:02:52
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dontletmedrown
You know what's funny-- I have that same mobo. Isn't it ironic that it goes through so much crap BEFORE it even launches windows? I wish I could bypass the Asus banners and the "click here to continue booting..." Because of the mobo, my DAW's boot time is longer than my older/slower DAW.
I have the same mobo, you can disable this in the bios I'm pretty sure.
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JonD
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/20 21:09:18
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Of course, it can (be disabled), and the "Click here to continue" message likely can be gotten rid of too, if he would just stop a second and let us help him.
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/20 22:20:08
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JonD
Of course, it can (be disabled), and the "Click here to continue" message likely can be gotten rid of too, if he would just stop a second and let us help him.
We already talked about this earlier. I can't disable the jmicron splash since I have an IDE drive connected to it. If I disable, it no longer finds that drive.
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Rajay1
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/21 10:27:36
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Awesome thread fellas! I'm learning a lot. Since I'm about ready to start ordering parts for a new i7 920 build, and since a lot of the heavy hitters are on this one; I have a few questions. Regarding the P6t, I haven't read 1 review that criticized it's performance. However most bad ones say there seems to be a problem with the slots. Some say they've gone through 2 or 3 before getting one that works correctly. That seems to indicate poor quality control. Secondly, although 64 bit is obviously the only way to go now, what would I have to add to run older 32 bit plugs? I still run extensively MIDI. Lastly, 775 v. LGA 1366 socket? I've been told that when (not if) PC goes to 8 cores using the 1366 means you wouldn't have to change the mobo. Again, awesome thread from a neophyte's perspective.
Almost forgot. I read here where some of you are using 12 gigs of RAM with no problem. I read some reviews where 12 adds an element of instability. When backed down to 10, everything cleared up. Can you verify this?
-Rajay
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eratu
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/21 11:57:01
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P6T working just fine here, slightly overclocked. I would happily recommend it if its features are right for you. Also check out the comparable Gigabyte boards. I generally prefer Gigabyte but I had my reasons for going with Asus this round... see earlier in this thread or over in my other huge thread... (links above, somewhere).
You always have a chance for getting a bum board from anyone. I think I've only ever had one truly bad bum board in my life, though, out of many, many motherboards -- from BIOSTAR, I believe -- I'd suggest that you buy locally in case you need to return and swap out... makes it far more convenient, even if it costs a tiny bit more.
Generally, the more likely scenarios for hardware problems are with RAM and occasionally power supply (if you don't get a top-quality one), in my experience. Again, I usually buy those parts locally to cover the hassle of returning them.
12GB RAM, absolutely no problem here. Stable as a rock for me... Make sure to thoroughly test your system with prime95 and memtest86 (memtest.org) at least overnight.
I can't comment on whether the new 1366 CPUs coming out will work on the P6T... I think they might, if it's just a BIOS update, but nothing I've read would confirm that for any motherboard at this point.
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Rajay1
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/21 13:28:38
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eratu
I'm not really interested in soft synths, can you offer some insight in to how this baby performs with 50-60 real audio tracks, plugs and say 12 (or better 24 if you've got them) input monitoring enabled tracks?
Many thanks
Child
44.1 sample rate for the tests, I normally use 44.1 or 48. I also briefly tested a similar project in Cubase 5.1 at 96KHz at 32 sample latency, which is about 0.3ms latency one way. Needless to say, the CPU hit was high, but it worked. :)
Haven't tried it with 50-60 audio tracks yet, but I did try it with about 25 audio tracks at 32 sample latency (about 0.7ms at 44.1 sample rate) with a video clip, a number of VSTi and at least 25 plugins, and it cut through it like butter, with ample CPU headroom. I suspect 50-60 tracks should be very comfortable at this latency as well, although I doubt I'll run it at 32 sample latency for practical purposes in most situations... but who knows? Now that I can, I might just stay there. :)
I just happened to be reading a post by a film scorer on another site who happily claimed 50 to 60 tracks with no problems with lots of string tracks and video. He didn't give the sample rate but I'm sure it was no less than 44.1. That's insane!
-Rajay
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/21 15:31:15
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i know i got a bit rediculus... but that's all i was saying. if you have the option to get more slots why wouldn't you. the uad and other cards may only be using 1x right now but trust me... 16x is on the way. as soon as they figure out the architecture of the chips to make use of those additional lanes.
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Tom F
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Re:STUNNING low-latency performance in Sonar 8.5 x64 on Win 7 x64 - The future has arrived
2009/11/22 05:45:49
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hi all - i just have a funny thing to report - since i was saying that i geat ultra low latencies also with a winxp 32 sp3 - well so i did some further testing and here is the result:
running a project at 88/24 ...16 tracks of recorded audio + 2 vstis (sylenth & dim pro)
i can play it back at 32 samples bufferset in the control panel (which means 16 samples at 88) AND IT WORKS :-)
the total real roundtrip latency reported by sonar is freaking 1,5 ms !!!!!
and the best (funny) thing is that the cpu meter shows 0% load (which is obviously a bug - but it made me smile)
rme cards just kick butt ;-)
...trying to be polite... quick temper...trying to be...
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