Monitoring Cumulative Loop Record Takes

I'm attempting to "loop record" audio in a way that will allow me to monitor the cumulative takes in the same fashion as a "looper". I've set the Record Options to enable "Sound on Sound (Blend)", storing takes in a single track and creating new layers on overlap.

When recording, I only hear the audio on the track that existed before the recording operations began. In order to hear the cumulative takes, I must stop the record operation and start recording or playback.

I thought that I had done audio loop recording in the same fashion as a "looper" years ago with one of the CWPA versions, but can't get it to work as I expect in Sonar 7 PE. Maybe I'm mistaken. However, I'm hoping that there is some setting I'm forgetting about that someone in these forums can point out to me.

Thanks for any help in advance,
Paul

Thanks for your reply.

Yes I have input monitoring turned on and do hear what I play.

What I want to hear is the previous "layers" that were put down during the current loop record operation. Somewhat like a loop machine allows you to build full backgrounds of sound by "overdubbing" while you are recording and hearing the cumulative affect.

Thanks again,
Paul

In the Recording Options dialog, I have previously tried enabling "Auto Punch" and unchecking the "Mute Previous Tracks" checkbox.

It still doesn't allow me to cumulatively hear my takes during the loop record operation.

Thanks for the suggestion,
Paul

Thank you for trying to help me.

Assuming that you meant the Editing tab on the Global Options dialog when you wrote "global sound options", I have tried both settings ("Blend Old and New" and "Replace Old with New"). (I thought they were only for edit operations like cut/paste. However, I tried them anyway.) Am I looking at the correct dialogs? (I get to this dialog by choosing Options->Global from the main menu.)

Also assuming that you meant the Recording Mode section of the Record Options dialog when you mentioned "sound on sound" and "the box ware it says mute previously recorded tracks", I've tried all permutations of those settings to no avail. Again, am I looking at the correct dialogs? (I get to this one by pressing on the "Record Options" icon in my Record toolbar.)

I'm intrigued that you indicate that you hear all the layers that you put down WHILE you are doing a loop record operation. I only hear the layers that were in the track at the time the loop record was started (as well as the input echo if it is enabled). I have to stop the operation, and start another before I hear all the layers that were put down during a loop record operation.

Anyone have any other ideas that I might be missing?

Thanks yet once again,
Paul

PS - If this is the case, I would think that would be a really cool option to hear previous takes added during a loop record operation.

Sure you can, and the poster can hear is previous takes, he wants to not hear the previous takes wich can be done also
Cj

Thanks for the input.

However, that's exactly what I thought. But it doesn't seem to work that way.

Are you actually able to do that?

I'm not able to hear the takes added as each new loop cycles during a loop record operation. I must stop the loop record operation and then either play or start another loop record operation to hear the added takes. The loop operation only seems to play the audio that exists when the loop operation is started, and of course, the input echo if it's enabled.

Any other ideas?

Thanks yet once again,
Paul

Susan:

Your response makes sense and satisfies my curiosity about this topic.

I misinterpreted the information about the "Record Options dialog" in the Sonar help file.

Obviously, I must have previously been doing loop recording using MIDI tracks.

Thanks so much for helping me,
Paul

I think that if it was allowed (Cumulative Audio track monitoring) it would cause all sorts of problems if you had a drum track and then another doubling the volume everytime, soon you would have digital clipping, not good for the ears or the monitors. Just my 2c worth