Editing an audio track

Does anyone know if MC4 will allow you to do detailed editing of an audio track? For example, say you have a 30 second track and you want to cut out the middle from 10 second to 19 second mark, how do you do that? When I have tried to make a cut like this, the program only allows me to put the marker at specified intervals which are very large. If anyone has an answer or any clues I would appreciate it! thanks!
jeff

I think you need to turn the Snap to grid off if you want a precise cut ??? I don't think I've ever tried this, though.


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Right. And you can blow up the image for even greater precision using the zoom buttons on the lower right.

That's exactly what I'm looking for guys! thanks very much!

While we're on the subject of Audio Track Editing, what are the type of processing that can be done on PORTIONS OF an audio track? For example, if you have a small section of the audio track selected, you can't apply an FX to just that segment? It appears that an FX hits the entire track regardless of how you select only a portion? But there are some other effects that you CAN apply to only a selected section? (Fade/Crossfade, Gain....others?) Does anyone have a good handle on what all we ARE able to effect on a small selected portion of the audio track?

I've never tried it with a clip, but on entire tracks. Maybe you can try it:
Select a clip by clicking on it (the track must have an effect in it). At the top, click 'Process>Apply Effects', click OK or whatever starts it and see if it acts just on the selected clip, not the entire track.
It it doesn't work like you want, go to 'Edit>Undo'.

Beage: I just tried it (in MC4) and once I've got the portion of the audio clip selected, right-clicking does not give any option of Add Clip FX. I would have to copy the clip to a separate track, as you suggested in option #2. Trying the Process FX in your last option, added the FX to the entire track, and not the selected portion.
Greg: Using your suggestion, Process/Apply Effects, brings up a pop-up that says that it is about to add whatever FX is in the track, to the selected clip. It makes no sense to me to DO that function, since that's already what's in place before we try to select the portion of the track to begin with. So - so far tests seem to indicate that MC4 cannot apply FX of a track, to a selected Clip - we have to paste the Clip into a separate track, there that FX can then act on that entire NEW track. Please let me know if any of you find out otherwise. I consider it a major feature in terms of editing/processing, and perhaps this is one area that CW splits between MC4 and the higher-end Sonar products. oh well - I love MC4 regardless!

John,
This is a good use for busses.
Fades and crossfades are, by nature limited to a specific timeframe, and have a finite duration, so they can be easily limited to a specific clip, or selection. gain isn't really an effect, but you can use it to change the volume of a selection relative to the rest of the track. On a side note, gain can have unexpected results if you have effects such as compressors in the FX bin. This is because gain adjusts the level on the input side of processing. Volume adjusts the output.
Anyhow, back to the point.
Put the effect you want to use in the FX bin of a bus. Insert a send in your subject audio track.
A pre-fader send will send the audio to the bus before it passes through the FX bin, and will be completely independent from your track output.
A post-fader send will send the audio to the bus after it has passed through the FX bin, and will be subject to the track output level.
Supose we want to apply an exagerated reverb to a short section, maybe a measure.
If the track has effects in the FX bin that are crucial to the sound, like an amp sim, bounce the track first, and use the bounced track as your source track.
Now, insert a send, and select PRE. Turn the send on.
Right click the track, and insert a send envelope. At the point we want to exagerate the reverb, raise the send envelope. You can also insert a volume envelope, and drop the volume in the source track at the same time for more drama.
It looks much more complicated than it really is, and you can use this to do spot effects, or even morph a sound into something completely different.

the track must have an effect in it

See what happens when I comment on something I've never done? (to a clip)

I should have tried it first. Glad you did, Reece.

Don't right-click the clip to get the apply effects options. Left-click the clip to select it, then go to the top and click 'Process>Apply Effects>Audio' >select the effect you want to apply. This will permanently apply the effect to the clip, so make sure you like the effect before saving/closing the project.

In MC Pro 24, there are no arrows like Beagle mentioned, but it works the same. Go down to Audio on the right-click menu to view the effects avalable for the clip.
In SONAR HS 6 it's like he wrote: follow the arrows. I imagine MC 4, being the latest version of MC, would hide them under the arrows.

OK Beagle, I am trying to post what I see in the first menu - but the bottom line is, now I see what you
were directing me to - the 3 little gray arrows at the bottom of that first menu! Yes, having found that,
when I click on that then I do get the menu option to add effects to the CLIP. Yes! This is a big first
- first time I've seen that menu option appear!

I hope I got this right - my image from my photobucket link:

GREAT! I knew there would be options in the menu that I have which you don't, but I was also sure that it had to have PROCESS FX menus for the clip as well.

I have just started using Music Creator 5 today and am VERY ignorant about its capabilities. If you have time to help me with my problem, I would be most grateful. I am making an audio recording. How do I get rid of sections where I make mistakes and re-record an accurate version? Right now, I'm just starting over at the beginning and hoping for the best, but I know there is a way to cut out errors and re-record accurately. I am grateful for your guidance!