OT - Truepianos Full -$83 for Sonar 6-8 customers

How do the other modules sound in comparison to Amber?

Seems like a great deal. Is it 64bit capable?

Glyn,

Can you elaborate more on why you like the Saphire the most?

I find Amber to be a bit nasily and sometimes hard to sit into a mix.

Also, the Amber model does not sum to mono well either. My stereo mixes sound fine but when I take the mix onto a gig and perform small venues with one speaker the piano is not present in the mix. I've record some stereo piano tracks with a hardware based synth and I don't experience a collapse when summed to mono like I do with True Pianos.

Eric

Hey Hansen -

The mono summing limitations are apparently a standing sore spot for some users. Check out this thread at KVR

http://www.kvraudio.com/f...torder=asc&start=0

One suggestion they had there was to play it in stereo and record that back into one mic and work with that.

Have you tried nudging it around a little to see if its a phase related thing you can fix? I have been about to spring for this product for a while now, but this mono stuff is most unsettling.  It's hard to say exactly where in the real world people would be hearing mono music, but I am still a little fixated on making sure my mixes move well  to mono, as soon as I start depending on some sounds that don't for any serious projects, I'm sure I'll somehow suffer for it in the end....

Hansenhaus


 Can anyone suggest a nice sounding piano VSTi that does sum to mono well? It doesn't have to be the greatest sounding piano samples of all time. Just a nice usable piano that doesn't disapear in the mix when played back in mono.

There are probably quite a few alterntives but here is a cost effective one.
 
I have not tried it but as I mentioned in my original reply I had considered picking up a copy of Akoustik piano by Native Instruments as some UK vendors were selling it cheap because it was discontinued. I would have used the free Kontakt 4 player rather than Akoustik Piano's interface which is what NI recommend now its has been discontinued.
 
If you can't find a copy of Akoustik Piano at a reasonable price NI have made the four pianos available as Instruments for Kontakt and they are compatible with the free player. Apparently they sound the same as Akoustik but you get a nicer interface in Kontakt. But with the Akoustik deals you were getting all for just a bit more than the price of one.
 
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/?search=piano
 
I suggest posting a question on the NI forum about the mono summing issue before parting with any cash.

Glyn Barnes

Hansenhaus


Can anyone suggest a nice sounding piano VSTi that does sum to mono well? It doesn't have to be the greatest sounding piano samples of all time. Just a nice usable piano that doesn't disapear in the mix when played back in mono.

There are probably quite a few alterntives but here is a cost effective one.

I have not tried it but as I mentioned in my original reply I had considered picking up a copy of Akoustik piano by Native Instruments as some UK vendors were selling it cheap because it was discontinued. I would have used the free Kontakt 4 player rather than Akoustik Piano's interface which is what NI recommend now its has been discontinued.
 

If you can't find a copy of Akoustik Piano at a reasonable price NI have made the four pianos available as Instruments for Kontakt and they are compatible with the free player. Apparently they sound the same as Akoustik but you get a nicer interface in Kontakt. But with the Akoustik deals you were getting all for just a bit more than the price of one.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/?search=piano

I suggest posting a question on the NI forum about the mono summing issue before parting with any cash.

FWIW, last week, MusiciansFriend had Akoustik for $79

FWIW I've had Akoustic Pianos for quite a while.  I NEVER use them.  IMO True Pianos is a far better choice.  Much more playable and real sounding.

I have them both, now. Had used the True Pianos demo on a couple of things, then bought NI Akoustik when it was on final cleance, and just bought the Elipte Pianos pack from Cakewalk.

My first impression was that True Pianos is brighter overall, and has a more natural velocity response out of the box than NI Akoustik. But after some tweaking, I found NI to be very playable, and to have fewer artifacts and weird-sounding samples that get annoying when playing solo. In particular, the True Pianos Diamond demo had several notes on in the octave above Middle C (starting at G, IIRC) that had an abnormally long release after key-off that made them ring unpleasantly when played repeatedly. I haven't tested to see if that persists in Diamond, and/or extends to any of the other piano modules in TP.

Notwithstanding this defect, I still found the price of the TP bundle tempting enough to go for it, and I do like the brighter sounding samples.

if you have Sonar 8.5, its only $79 as part of the Elite Piano Edition!

So how do you get the additional discount?  The only additional discount I see here
https://www.plimus.com/jsp/buynow.jsp?contractId=1685129

is for folks who bought the Sonar 8.5 PE bundle.

Edit: I said the problem was with the release after key-off in my original post, but this reminded me the problem is with the decay before key off. 

I'm hearing this in decay before key off as well. Thanks for posting that. Now I can take comfort that I'm losing my mind more slowly than I thought...