About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..?

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2010/03/11 12:58:48 (permalink)

About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..?

I just noticed that Cakewalk seems to have scaled back the V-Studio website. (www.sonarvstudio.com)  Basically, it looks like they've just taken parts of it and folded it into the main website.  I'm now a bit worried that this is an indication that they are cutting back on promotion of the platform and that I should now wait a while and watch what's going. 

Has Cakewalk made any commitments to continue supporting the V-studio platform thru future versions of SONAR? This is a lot of money to invest in something that may not be supported much longer. In fact, it will be the more money than I've ever spent on anything besides my house and cars.

I would feel a lot better if someone from Cakewalk would chime in here and reassure me that I have nothing to be worried about. I don't need to know specifics, but if I buy one this month and then find out that they're being cleared out or replaced soon, I can pretty much guarantee that it will be hard to remain a Cakewalk customer

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    Dyonight
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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/11 13:30:45 (permalink)
    Yeah you're right, I am on the forum today exactly for this reason.  I hope it's just a site update and that they are not leaving the studio 700 like it is right now, since there's some features I would like to see adressed before buying it.

    No need to panic though, I'm shure Cakewalk will keep their custmers informed, since I think thay have one of the best customer service ever.

    Hope to hear more about that,

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/11 13:34:54 (permalink)
    I wouldn't worry about it eB.  I think, the V-700 is their biggest achievement they've ever come up with (thanks to the merger with Roland), and is now - and certainly will be - their flagship.  Sonar has always been some kind of a 'amongst others' kind of sequencer/DAW (what I mean by that is, if someone would list DAWs they'd start with Pro Tools, Logic, DP, etc ... and somewhere toward the end there would be Sonar).  But now, with the V-700 and the grand version 8.5, they've catapulted themselves upward and are definitely on par with the above mentioned DAWs. 
    So, even if they did cut back on the individual ad, this does not mean they'll stop producing them ... I'm pretty sure about that.
    Just my opinion (Cakewalk, correct me if I'm wrong ...).
    Heinz.
    PS: I've got a V-700 and it's worth every single penny! I'm utterly happy with it!




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    Michael Hoover [Cakewalk]
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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/11 15:40:38 (permalink)
    Don't worry, VS700 is here to stay!   The microsite wasn't working out 100% like we hoped, so we folded it back into the main site.  We love this product and have some cool things planned for it in 2010.


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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/11 15:49:41 (permalink)
    Michael Hoover [Cakewalk
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    Don't worry, VS700 is here to stay!   The microsite wasn't working out 100% like we hoped, so we folded it back into the main site.  We love this product and have some cool things planned for it in 2010.


    Michael Hoover
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    Thanks Michael! That's all that I wanted to hear... 


    ...Now I can go back to getting excited about the upcoming purchase... 


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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/11 22:13:22 (permalink)
    I'm sitting on the fence as well.

    eB,
    You're running Win7x64 and Sonar 32bit, care to elaborate?

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/11 23:41:14 (permalink)
    DeeringAmps


    I'm sitting on the fence as well.

    eB,
    You're running Win7x64 and Sonar 32bit, care to elaborate?

    Tom

    Sure...Basically, it runs great. Its a Cakewalk-supported configuration with none of the Bitbridge/jBridge hassles dealing with loading 32-bit plugins into SONAR 64-bit. Its ideal for me mainly because I don't have any really large projects that would benefit from having more than the 4GB RAM that the 32-bit environment is limited to


    I believe that it's also the currently preferred SONAR configuration for running the V-Studio environment under 64-bit Windows, at least until the Roland Fantom software is made fully 64bit-compatible. I also have a buttload of money invested in the UAD platform which is still 32bit only. I'll probably seriously start looking at SONAR 64-bit when UA decides that its time to go 64-bit. 


    ...Until then its really 'the best of both worlds'...for me anyway.


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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 07:11:21 (permalink)
    The VS 700 is a great system. It was-is out reach for many hence VS 100. Sales figures and obselecense are a disturbing part of the musical equipment picture to be sure.
    I'm glad I got a VS 700, win or lose, I'm in for the long haul. To obsoless the system this soon would surely be disastrous for Cakewalk and Roland. The bean counters sometimes win though.

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 08:00:27 (permalink)
    Yeah... I've just bought the control surface for a great price off eBay and it gets delivered this Monday. Cannot wait.

    Will get the 700R as soon as I find one for a similar deal... this gear looks incredible and is the solution that is a book end fit for Sonar 8.

    Grab one I say!

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 09:43:14 (permalink)
    eBlue,
    Thanks for the update.
    I've been looking at the UAD as well, hadn't paid attention to the fact it is still 32bit.
    Is that a PCI-e card, the little interface, on that card?

    Thanks,
    Tom

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 11:25:05 (permalink)
    good news to me too.  ...I've been convinced the automation is worth the cake (pardon the pun) from the beginning.  I'm more convinced as time goes on that the converters are pro-studio grade too.

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 12:12:31 (permalink)
    The V-Studio 700 definitely provides the ultimate SONAR experience... at least, it does for me. http://garrigus.com/?VStudio700

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 12:13:03 (permalink)
    DeeringAmps


    eBlue,
    Thanks for the update.
    I've been looking at the UAD as well, hadn't paid attention to the fact it is still 32bit.
    Is that a PCI-e card, the little interface, on that card?

    Thanks,
    Tom

    Tom,


    The current UAD-2 cards are all PCI-e with the exception being the Solo/Laptop card which uses the Expresscard slot found on most newer laptops. The older UAD-1 platform supported both PCI and PCI-e cards. However, I would steer clear of those UAD-1 cards, mainly because very few of the upcoming UAD plug-ins are likely to run on them.


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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 12:43:24 (permalink)
    Yes, I'd just like to second Michael Hoover's comments, the V-Studio 700 is here to stay.
     
    We got feedback that some people found the microsite confusing, so we folded it into the regular site.
     
    And as far as continuing to support it, I'd like to direct yiour attention to a new video we released last week on how to use the Fantom VS:
     
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcd8h7_mixing-multiple-instruments-with-fa_music 
     
    And we have some other goodies in store for VS-700 customers in the coming weeks and months that have yet to be announced. So stay tuned.
     
    Thanks,
     
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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 12:51:18 (permalink)
    eBlue

    64bit-compatible. I also have a buttload of money invested in the UAD platform which is still 32bit only. I'll probably seriously start looking at SONAR 64-bit when UA decides that its time to go 64-bit. 

    As far as I know, you can run UAD plugs using BitBridge in SONAR 64. I haven't tried it yet, but I know some other users here are doing it.

    Scott

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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 13:15:09 (permalink)
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    eBlue

    64bit-compatible. I also have a buttload of money invested in the UAD platform which is still 32bit only. I'll probably seriously start looking at SONAR 64-bit when UA decides that its time to go 64-bit. 

    As far as I know, you can run UAD plugs using BitBridge in SONAR 64. I haven't tried it yet, but I know some other users here are doing it.

    Scott

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    Scott, Yes you're right. I've heard that the UAD plugs run well under Bitbridge. However, it is not officially supported by UA. Like I mentioned, I don't really have any projects that can really benefit from running under SONAR 64. Right now I'd rather stick to running a supported configuration for as long as I can. However, I will probably start to dip my toes into the SONAR 64 environment once I get the V-Studio up and running...


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    Re:About to pull the trigger on a VS-700 system...should I be concerned..? 2010/03/12 18:57:42 (permalink)
    Have had the V-700 C for some months now, and it has really changed my workflow and approach to  mixing.  Haven't regretted  the bucks for a second, even if it's more expencive than my car.  

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