Freddie H
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BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
Does Cakewalk BETA test the PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier? Seriously?
CWBRN: 8412 BUG!!!
1. Add a PC2A to a buss called example “Lead Vocal” Bus. 2. Change the settings in the PC2A. “Limit” or “COMP” Set to “fast” or “classic” it doesn’t matter. I have mostly set the photo to “classic” if that has anything to do with it but I don’t think so? 3. Save the settings as a new Pro Channel present. 4. Send track to Bus and Hit Play! 5. Watch the meters.. Dead!!! 6. Re-Load the same preset on another bus or same bus. 7. Watch the meters.. Dead!!! 8. No compressor or limiting happening on the BUS. DEAD! 9. Make a NEW third bus. 10. Load directly the Preset. 11. Send track to third Bus and Hit Play! 12. Watch the meters. The PC2A T Type now works on third Bus??? 13. Send the Track streaming to Second bus again. 14. No it still doesn’t work! Dead! 15. Try to Re-Load Preset on the Second Bus again! 16. No still dead! 17. Send the Track signal to third bus again, It Works! CWBRN: 8413 Total DEAD!!
1. Add a PC2A to a new buss
2. Send track to the new Bus and Hit Play!
3. Watch the meters..
4. No response at all DEAD!
5. “GAIN” still works but whatever the PEAK REDUCTION are set to “100” or “0”-level nothing, still no response, totally DEAD!
6. I even MAX the GAIN INPUT from TRACK +18db and + 6db fader over Zero (Peak signal internal +22.7db) over Zero) from Track feed into Bus = Still no response at the PC2A T Type, 100% DEAD!
7. Add the PC2A T Type to the track instead. Now the PC2A T Type works on the Track instead?
8. Make a NEW second bus.
9. Load directly a preset with PC2A T Type.
10. Send The track to that new second Bus!
11. The PC2A T Type now work on the new Second Bus?
post edited by Freddie H - 2012/03/29 11:15:08
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Freddie H
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 11:21:19
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I will uninstall the plugin and reinstall it again and see if that helps!!
I don't think It will help but still? I have the same kind of story and same kind of bugs reported on the Concrete Limit too!
I don't know but it seem fixed in D update on the Concrete limiter.
This Sucks Big Time!
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 11:31:51
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Wow, cool - who needs to watch TV when I can see all this drama today :)
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 11:37:18
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Did you look to see that the top Prochannel button next to the + sign was on?
I did exactly as you did ,but no DEAD Meter.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 12:03:35
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cowboydan
Did you look to see that the top Prochannel button next to the + sign was on?
I did exactly as you did ,but no DEAD Meter.
Yes its ON . Try HIT ON OFF No luck. Re-Load the preset or other preset sometimes work, fix the problem, sometimes it don't. I guess 50/ 50 chance ,random. Thanks for trying it out! I like the plugin, very good so I just want it to work always.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 12:06:20
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cowboydan
Did you look to see that the top Prochannel button next to the + sign was on?
I did exactly as you did ,but no DEAD Meter.
The overall "Meter" works but no Limitation or compressor happen... (below ZERO -Meter) = reduction meter DEAD! BUG!! Show the overall "Volume" works inside the plugin-always When I get it to work random everything are shown correctly (below ZERO -Meter) = reduction meter too!
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 12:10:53
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As I stated in another thread, I've had problems with PC2A messing with my sound card. I don't know for sure, but since people are beginning to report problems with this new plug, it sounds like there may be some bugs in it. Time will tell.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 12:36:58
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Glad its not just me then! been having the odd issue of PC plugs in general not turning off off, light stays on, on or or off among other oddities like you mentioned above.
Getting a bit peed off with it TBH and don't always get the time to send reports, shouldn't have to be sending reports! The PC ain't all its cracked up to be IMHO its got a mind of its own.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 12:46:53
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Hey Freddie,
Why torment yourself?
There's plenty of other choices that sound just about as good and they work 24/7.
Know what I mean?
:-)
best regards,
mike
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 13:04:04
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 13:09:30
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Does Cakewalk have some sort of unprotected XXX, it seems to catch so m CGB. Please wear some sort of virus protector.
I haven't even gone to X1d and my expanded program runs great unless I try some kinky peice of freeware, hmm
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 13:15:52
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Freddie, FYI, yes, cakewalk tests everything like crazy. Bugs happen dude. Trust me, they test a LOT
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 13:25:07
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Freddie, It can't be anything wrong with Sonar. It has to be your system. Did you update your mouse drivers, video card drivers, chipset drivers, sound card drivers, display drivers? I would also reload your motheboard bios back to factory software by taking apart your computer and jumping the Bios reset jumpers. Then try reloading the latest bios. Make sure all of your floppy drive cables are tight as well. Make sure to reseat your RAM. Then run several different memory checkers overnight. Don't worry, your chips will be so hot you'll be able to cook breakfast on them in the morning when you check the test status, so it's a win win doing a mem check. Make sure you have no internet access on your DAW. I know it sounds silly, especially with the new feature to directly upload to soundcloud from Sonar, but a popular solution is to not have internet access on your DAW. Contradicting I know. Also, make sure you have done all of your Microsoft updates. Do all this, then if that doesn't work, format all of your hard drives and reinstall everything from scratch. Make sure you install X1 original release first, then the D patch, then Expanded, oh wait, I may have got that backwards. Hold on, Format, then Windows, then updates, then X1 Original release, then Expanded, then the D patch, then ... oh wait, I'm confused now. Just RTFM. At any rate, X1 runs perfect on every other computer in the world, so it has to be a problem with your system. I speak from experience on this. Honestly, at this point, just buy a new computer. Hope this helps, this is the advice everyone has given me over the last year and a half. BTW ... yeah, the PC2A froze on me last night also. What you see happening is what has been happening to me and others since X1 was released. So far they've been blaming it on envelopes and that was supposed to be fixed in the D patch. Good luck with that buddy.
post edited by Bub - 2012/03/29 13:39:58
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 14:08:29
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Not seeing that behaviour here. I've saved it as a preset, loaded it into existing busses & new busses, all meters both module and buss working fine. What other modules have you got in the preset in case it's a combination of certain ones?
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 14:16:42
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Ya gone and broke it all-ready !
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 14:21:57
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Freddie, it very well could be a bug and it's a good thing you have reported it. All I can say is I've done the steps you have put forth several now and the results you are seeing are not happening for me.
Just to make sure I'm doing it right here are my steps as I think you are saying.
1. In a project with an audio track (for this purpose I'm using a vocal track called "Lead Vocal"
2. Create a new bus (I'll just leave called "C")
3 On "Bus C" insert the PC2A leveler into ProChannel and make adjustments - I switched from Compress to Limit and from Fast Reset to Classic and spun a few knobs.
4. Save that preset in ProChannle (I called it "Test")
5. Create a send on track "Lead Vocal" to "Bus C".
6. Hit Play
Result for me = track plays and meters in ProChannel respond on "Bus C".
7. Insert a second bus (I left this one titled "D")
8. Select the saved preset "Test" on "Bus D"
9. Create a send on track "Lead Vocal" to "Bus D".
Results for me = track is still playing and the meters in ProChannel on both "Bus D" and the original "Bus C" are responding as expected.
10. Wash, rinse, repeat the steps again for a new bus titled "Bus E".
Results for me = the same as before.
Note: I did this the first time without stopping playback and it all worked as expected. So I tried it again and the results were the same. So, I added a variable, I stopped playback between additional bus adds and the results were the same - it all worked for me. I did this several times with up to 6 busses - it still worked.
I'm not cynical enough to tell you that bugs don'texist and that it should not be reported, all I can give you is my results in testing.
I hope you get it working for you.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 14:34:26
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Can't reproduce this with OP's recipe either.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 14:41:53
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Can't reproduce this with OP's recipe either. You're not going to. This is the same random bug that's been in the Pro Channel since day 1 that nobody at Cakewalk can reproduce. I put the PC2A on an audio track last night and the needle immediately moved from 0db to pointing straight up and stuck there. No matter how far up or down I turned the controls, the needle stayed in the middle and there was no effect on the audio. I tried turning it off, then back on, no response. So, I removed it, added it again, and bang, it worked. This is the same exact behavior I've seen in the Pro Channel since day 1 in that, a module will freeze up and not respond, but this doesn't happen nearly as often as the turning on/off by itself problem did.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 14:43:04
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osd
Can't reproduce this with OP's recipe either.
+1 I can't reproduce this either.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 15:04:39
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Jind
Freddie, it very well could be a bug and it's a good thing you have reported it. All I can say is I've done the steps you have put forth several now and the results you are seeing are not happening for me.
Just to make sure I'm doing it right here are my steps as I think you are saying.
1. In a project with an audio track (for this purpose I'm using a vocal track called "Lead Vocal"
2. Create a new bus (I'll just leave called "C")
3 On "Bus C" insert the PC2A leveler into ProChannel and make adjustments - I switched from Compress to Limit and from Fast Reset to Classic and spun a few knobs.
4. Save that preset in ProChannle (I called it "Test")
5. Create a send on track "Lead Vocal" to "Bus C".
6. Hit Play
Result for me = track plays and meters in ProChannel respond on "Bus C".
7. Insert a second bus (I left this one titled "D")
8. Select the saved preset "Test" on "Bus D"
9. Create a send on track "Lead Vocal" to "Bus D".
Results for me = track is still playing and the meters in ProChannel on both "Bus D" and the original "Bus C" are responding as expected.
10. Wash, rinse, repeat the steps again for a new bus titled "Bus E".
Results for me = the same as before.
Note: I did this the first time without stopping playback and it all worked as expected. So I tried it again and the results were the same. So, I added a variable, I stopped playback between additional bus adds and the results were the same - it all worked for me. I did this several times with up to 6 busses - it still worked.
I'm not cynical enough to tell you that bugs don'texist and that it should not be reported, all I can give you is my results in testing.
I hope you get it working for you.
Okay! Thanks fro trying it out! Great that it working out for you! I sure Cakewalk or the forum will figure it out.. I re-installed the plugins. Same bug with or without SONAR skin happen random? sometimes it work, sometime it don't? Sounds great! Love this new plugin....when it work...
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 15:07:35
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Bub
osd
Can't reproduce this with OP's recipe either. You're not going to. This is the same random bug that's been in the Pro Channel since day 1 that nobody at Cakewalk can reproduce.
I put the PC2A on an audio track last night.........So, I removed it, added it again, and bang, it worked. This is the same exact behavior I've seen in the Pro Channel ............
Yes I had the same problem loading present with "Concrete plugin"
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 15:08:35
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osd
Can't reproduce this with OP's recipe either.
+1
I can't reproduce this either.
Okay great & thanks! 
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 15:11:05
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Freddie, FYI, yes, cakewalk tests everything like crazy. Bugs happen dude. Trust me, they test a LOT
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 15:15:18
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Freddie, you should go into your templates directory and rename your normal.cwt file, then launch Sonar. That will bring up the default blank Sonar template with no tracks. Try you recipes again with that template and see if you're still having problems. If you are still having the problems, that will at least rule out a problem with your template.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 21:40:38
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Bub
I put the PC2A on an audio track last night and the needle immediately moved from 0db to pointing straight up and stuck there. No matter how far up or down I turned the controls, the needle stayed in the middle and there was no effect on the audio. I tried turning it off, then back on, no response. So, I removed it, added it again, and bang, it worked. This is the same exact behavior I've seen in the Pro Channel since day 1 in that, a module will freeze up and not respond, but this doesn't happen nearly as often as the turning on/off by itself problem did.
Yes, I've had this exact same thing happen and had to remove it & re-add it to resolve just like you. There's no particular pattern to this and I don't know what causes it. Bill.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 21:43:38
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on off behaviour here ...also had a crash after inserting the gate : blank gui !! then move , close , erase : crashola .....
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 22:08:43
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I'm so glad people are chiming in on this. Thanks for starting this thread Freddie. I'm glad that people are starting to run in to what I've experienced in the PC since day 1. Whatever happened in the D patch or the last couple of modules seems to have opened up the problem to a wider variety of systems. Maybe now Cakewalk will look in to this deeper instead of just writing off crazy ol' Bub. The problem now is ... will we see an E patch? Hmmm .... quite the pickle we find ourselves in now wouldn't ya say fella's?
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 22:33:09
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Bub, I know you're not nuts. The problem of the random PC state for me has pretty much gone away since the introduction of the global PC on/off switch. The few times I can recall it happening recently, a quick toggle of the global switch got it going again. I wish I knew what happened on my system that improved the situation.
And I'm already campaigning that the next patch be X1F. Expanded owns the "E" now.
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Re:BUG! New PC2A T Type Leveling Amplifier BUGS!!!
2012/03/29 23:36:43
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I'm relatively new to the DAW world but when I read the problem in the OP I'm wondering what the setting is on the meter. That is you can have GR, dbFS, +4 and +10. When I've been fiddling around with the unit I've noticed wildly different swings in the needle depending on that setting.
I didn't see where the OP says if it sounds different or not - just that the VU meter is dead.
X1d had been quite solid here as has the PC2A.
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