SP x2 on Win. XP

I know it's an obvious answer, but please get a new PC. Windows 8 is out next week and will hopefully be pre-installed on new machines (such as Dell). Put the dog down, even a cheapo Dell PC will fare better.

Oh and no it isn't supported:
http://www.cakewalk.com/page.aspx/Free-SONAR-X2-upgrade

Cheers...

I am looking forward to Windows 8, however, I would like to get new hardware next summer, when they figure out what they actually need to optimize Win. 8. The systems available now are still Win. 7 systems. I do not expect major changes in processors by next summer, but general configurations may improve as manufacturers gain experience building systems for Win 8. I also want to get touch-sensitive monitors, and right now I can not afford it. I am in school and all my money go to pay for tuition. I can not even make music as much as I would like to. In defence of my old computer- It is $4000 Dell Precision workstation. When you buy something at that price, you expect it to work for years. And now it has new motherboard and hard drives. If I could replace the processor, I would. lol. I am not that savy. Just trying to make it till the next summer. It is still nice system. 3.6 clock speed used to cost a lot of money and it doing what it supposed to- I think so- lol. It feels better than my Core duo internet computer. Also I would not make this mistake again to invest that much money in to the workstation. I was pressured to convert to Mac, but their systems are all over 5k for basic configurations- I am not doing it again. I thought- Precision workstation would work forever. Not the case. Acts just like any junky Windows machine. It is frashly reinstalled and tuned now with all support software and drivers- I went trough a nightmare with it, trying to save my music with hard drive failures, and recently- my back up drive failed as well. But that is ok. Got new one. I am having hard time to view this sistem as $50 computer after all investment and repare done on it.  

Pretty sure you will need way more than 6 gig. Just the temp setup files (unpacked from the 02...partx.exe files) use more than that. Can you move your swap file to another partition temporarily?

What's the SWAP file? When I uninstalled SP 8.5, I did not get any space. But I am thinking, if I uninstall X1, would I get space? Right now after defrog, I got 9.7 Gb.

I think there was a thread today where someone installed X2 in XP SP3.

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It is not necessary to uninstall X1 to install X2.

WHen you only got 6 gigs to play with it is......






The only thing I can come up with for the op is buy a USB Hard drive  a 1000 gigs is like 100 or so bucks..... install it in that location.... You'll have  to always keep it plugged in but you'll have space ....



If you can even get the thing to run on xp


If not you got the extra space  For your  8.5

Doesn't the advanced install give you option to install SONAR anywhere you want?

That is the system restore space you refering to, right? Sounds like a good idea, not sure what you mean by "then choose "system managed size" for your other drive or partition that has a lot of space."- will it let me set system restore on another drive?

So far I am downloding content to partitioned side of drive. Any ideas how much space would I need for install?

I used to run Emagic Logic 5 from another drive (for the same reason). Would it be ok to install Sonar on D drive? (If there an option to do that). The shared plugins folder is on C drive, but I can rescan plugins. My computer used to store most VSTs in Emagic/Logic shared plugins folder any way.

I do not know the considerations company has to make to decide not to support an OS, and I do not understand the differences in programming behind the different versions. All I know is that until recently you could still order XP computers for business use and many industries, such as Healthcare still use XP. I just have to give it a chance and see what happens. I will let you know if it works. And why in a world the company would release updates that would not install on OS that still owned by half of the world? Is there a research data that shows how many users in the world still have XP?
It is easy to say, just get new computer with Win 7 or 8. I could afford the computer, but then- the sound cards- the drivers are not supported on new OS. This means I have to change my IO system. I am looking in to it, but right now I can not do it. I still use M-Audio Delta 1010, Helix Phonic 18 and M-Audio Fast Track Ultra. Emagic Unitor 8 for MIDI. Many of you here not even know what that is. It is 8 In/Outs MIDI Time Piece. There is no drivers for that- the company is not exists. So I am looking at like 10K to rebuild everything- why would I do that to accommodate one “crashy” program? And I am just a small studio- I am sure there people who invested much more in to their hardware and not going to change everything because Cakewalk decided not to support legacy OS. Thanks.

It's not system restore; it's virtual memory support. When you see that dialog, you will find out how much space your pagefile is using on C:, and hence whether its worth pursuing. The install requires >6 gig for temp files which you will get back in the end, plus whatever gets permanently installed. I understand you want to do this on XP only temporarily until you can get a new machine and that you may wish to carry forward the data on your other partition. I.e. your disk drive can be added to your new computer. Is it not true that if you buy a W7 computer now your W8 upgrade is free or very low cost?

Good to know, Noel. I'd add what you have said on to the requirements page as people will still attempt to run X2 on XP. It happens with many other products. I know it's their own risk but 'unsupported' gets treated as 'give it a go, what's the worst that could happen'.

I'm on XP but wouldn't have risked X2.

See post# 13 here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2667396
 
Apparently the Windows runtimes are changing in Win8 so will no longer be compatible with XP.
 

yep, time to upgrade to 7

Here is why. http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2667950

I installed X2 on a fresh install of XP SP3 last night and screwed around with it for a while and it SEEMED to work fine. But, that's not saying much right now since I haven't really dug into it yet.

I wasn't going to install it on that machine since I know it's on it's death bed, but I got too antsy and did it just to see. I'll dig in deeper tonight. If nothing else I'll at least be familiar with it.