UAD 6.3.2 and Sonar X2

I saw a thread warning about a UAD uncompatibilitie, wich was, in fact, a "UAD itself" warning about this situation... 

Has there been any word from either Cakewalk or UA about a fix for this?

Would be nice to be able to check out the new plugs. The Ambience Recovery looks interesting.

indravayu


I contacted UAD about this (since I primarily work in 64bit X2 now), but only got a canned response that they are working on 64bit drivers. In other words, there will be no fix offered, other than the new 64bit versions of the plugins that they are still beta testing.

 
Between this and the hockey lockout....

By the way - I cannot try the Shadows Hill Comp because it is part of 6.3.2 which does not work with Sonar 64 bit.  Now if they come out with the 64 bit plugs in December and those work in Sonar 64 bit,then I will not be too upset about the two month hiatus.  And by the way, the Shadow Hills Comp is not made by UAD, but by a third party, and from what I have been reading, it may be disappointing.  Of course, if I can run the UAD 6.3.2. software, then I would demo it and really have my own opinion. 
 

I have a Damage Control "Glass Nexus", it uses a SHARC processor at 96k to process the audio, also uses high voltage to some tubes (which implies it is NOT a starved plate design)...

For a floor box it is one of the BEST phasor/reverb/delay units made, very sweet and creamy...(a little hard to tweak though/limited knobbiness)...

For a hardware unit (using a sharc) these things are great and are probably a sleeper product since Damage Control is moving AWAY from Sharc...

This was the effect I was trying to use today in External Insert (never did get it to work)...

But you are so right...SHARC days are limited

Actually, it's kind of a half and half process. 

I mean, X64 processing really refers to the internal VST and audio interfaces on the PC itself (as well as Sonars internal processing), not the DSP. The DSP really only needs 32-bits for floating point and that's 1000s time more dynamic range than our ears can handle. The problem with the fixed point is that when you sum signals together, they'll quickly overflow (clip). Floating point handily solves that. Makes programming easier too!

So, technically, there's no reason why UAD shouldn't work with Sonar with their existing systems if they're providing (proper?) 64-bit VST interfaces (using a 64-bit datalink to the external box also.?). Sure, we can run some 32-bit VST's in X2/64 - but things will always run smoother if the PC doesn't have to thunk back-and-forth between 64 and 32 bit modes. My guess is there's some technical issue going on - maybe their drivers were some sort of hybrid and now Sonar is forcing the issue, but I'm just guessing. They'll get it worked out, they just have to dodge all those annoying brickbats being thrown at them while they get it done....

Cheers!

Hm...Freddie do you have any indication from UAD (or anyone) that the 64bit versions will only be VST3? Where are you getting that?

Dean

Brandon (Owner of Mohog) is married to my second daughter, as a "get closer to my son-in-law" we built a set of mnats versions almost 4 years ago (He was running a studio in San Diego using Sonar)...anyway he took the ball and ran with it, has done a ton of research (he pretty much builds the "F" version only) and is constantly improving every aspect of his product.

You would be amazed at who is using his stuff now, MAJOR Grammy Producers swear by his stuff...AND he's a huge Cakewalk supporter...

I have a couple of units and am building a third...we had 2 of the UA 1176's in the studio there and did some A/B comparisons...the noise floor difference alone sold me, but having the extra transformer inside (Its based on a Neve style so you get some British kind of color if you want)...

I'm trying to convince him to reset up a mixing studio there because he's really talented at that as well...currently he has several other boutique gear builders asking to trade for his stuff...

So yeah I'm a little baised (but I was involved on the initial development/I build mostly tube stuff now)...

His prices are more than fair considering each unit is hand built, tested by him and guaranteed...(they are also hand numbered)...

And on the EI thing...I'm going back on it today...I never did get it to work, so I'm going to try the 32 bit version of X2 and see if that makes a difference...

By the way, my UAD stuff seems to be working in X2/Win7/64 but I ma on 6.0.??? with them...

It's just a waiting game right now. The 64bit versions have been developed, but they're still beta testing. They have never announced a release date, but did suggest they'd have them ready for release this year. So, fingers crossed, we'll get them next month.

64 bit UAD plugins have finally arrived!! I'm using them in X2-64 now and everything works great!

 
That's odd there's nothing on UA's website to support this. Could you provide a link to support your statement?
 
FWIW: No 64 bit no UAD for me.
 
Regards,

miguelito

64 bit UAD plugins have finally arrived!! I'm using them in X2-64 now and everything works great!

 
That's odd there's nothing on UA's website to support this. Could you provide a link to support your statement?
 
FWIW: No 64 bit no UAD for me.
 
Regards,

http://www.uaudio.com/support/uad/downloads.html


I'm a grown-assed man, I don't BS people online.

I'm a grown-assed man, I don't BS people online.

 
I asked for a link after going to UA's web site where I didn't see any information. Given the duration of how long UA has been promising 64 bit support I would have thought they would broadcast it in big bold letters. I said nothing disparaging to you nor did I mean to imply anything.
 
Thanks for the link.

miguelito

I'm a grown-assed man, I don't BS people online.

 
I asked for a link after going to UA's web site where I didn't see any information. Given the duration of how long UA has been promising 64 bit support I would have thought they would broadcast it in big bold letters. I said nothing disparaging to you nor did I mean to imply anything.
 
Thanks for the link.

No worries - I should've put a smiley at the end of my post - wasn't angry at you.

I just installed 6.4. I gave it a quick test and everything worked!
I just might have to by myself another UAD plug for Christmas.

Don't forget to remove the x86 uad folder from your VST list, add the new folder under C: Program files and then rescan your vsts.