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KX-driver trouble, no audio
I am running Sonar 7.0.2 on Vista 32-bit. I installed the KX-drivers, but Sonar can not use them for audio playback. I got this error message (see screenshot): The following driver(s) either do not supper the current audio format, or are in use by another application. Already tried a lot but nothing seems to help. Midi playback works fine. link: http://i50.tinypic.com/103ifrk.png
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/01/27 15:51:39
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in Windows XP everything works fine
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/01/27 15:54:21
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I'd never heard of those drivers. It must be like ASIO4 all, a generic driver to use with an on board sound card. Sonar does not get along with this kind of stuff, It hates Sound Blasters cards the most . You really need to purchase a proper audio interface to use Sonar ( or any DAW) to it's full potential.
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/01 12:27:04
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Managed to get it work: Needed to set the driver mode to MME instead of WDM. UPDATE: Strange. Under XP I can run in WDM driver mode. Under Vista this is not possible, I am forced to use the inferior MME drivers.
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/01 16:43:06
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What about the ASIO drivers?
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/01 16:51:24
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Dave, He's using on board card.. KX drivers seem to be another WDM wrapper like asio4all.
OP you really need an audio interface to run $400 software.
On board sound cards are for gaming and beeps and farts.
There are a zillion posts here about this topic. It is rare that you can do any work in Sonar with a on board card.
Try at least using asio4all, I doubt if those KX drivers have been updated to Vista or W7.
You will have to use MME drivers as that is what works best with on board cards.
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/02 07:17:26
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Well, the card I use is a Sound-blaster Live. The heart of it is the legendary Emu10k1 chip. Which can also be found in E-MU sound-modules. I considered using ASIO4ALL drivers, however I do not know whether that will give me access to the option to load sound-fonts (.sf2 files).
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/02 08:27:39
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Would it have something to do with the following advanced Vista sound properties - Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device - Give exclusive mode applications priority
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/02 08:47:36
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Are the KX drivers the drivers for the SoundBlaster card? If so, go to the Creative site and get the latest version for your Operating System. After you install them, try using WDM mode in Sonar. Run the Wave Profiler to set it up. As others will tell you, SoundBlasters are not the soundcard of choice for pro audio. Creative has good marketing, but lousy products.
post edited by daveny5 - 2013/02/03 10:15:47
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/02 22:18:25
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They actually lie as in big print on the box it say's ASIO drivers but Sonar will only use the WDM mode, If you switch to ASIO Sonar will tell you there is no audio device available. It don't matter what chip is in there, It's the drivers that make or break any audio interface
I have the Sound Blaster Audigy II which was $300 back in 2002. A "computer" tech sold it to me telling me they were the best. It is the main reason I wasted 4 years trying to make Cakewalk work and it never did. You want proof go back and look at my postings from 2004 for Home Studio. It works fine with Wavelab and watching movies, but not with any version of cake.
To bad as I like everything else about it as a card. But don;t waste your time thinking it will work with Cakewalk in anything but MME mode.
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/02 22:38:00
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Thanks for your replies. Those Creative cards definitely have some issues, however in my situation there is not really an alternative for something else. Drivers are indeed important, therefore I use the kX Audio Driver. With these drivers I can use WDM driver mode under Windows XP, however under Vista I have to go back to MME. A solution or work-around would be welcome. From the official KX-driver project website: The kX Project is an independent development project, focused on providing free WDM Audio Drivers for kX-Compatible sound cards. Read our Mission statement for a quick introduction.
The kX Audio Driver is an independent WDM (Windows Driver Model) driver for all EMU10K1 and EMU10K2-based soundcards manufactured by Creative Technology Ltd. and/or E-mu Systems Inc., including the SoundBlaster Live! series, the E-mu Audio Production Studio (APS) card, and the Audigy / Audigy2 series of cards. (Full List).
The kX Audio Driver package includes driver system files and setup files as well as a powerful audio mixer application (the kX Mixer), which acts as a Graphical User Interface, providing access to many of the driver's internal functions. The following features are either fully supported or partially supported in the latest release of the kX Audio Driver:
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/03 10:18:40
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So then use the drivers from Creative that work under Windows Vista. You're making this more complicated than it needs to be by using these 3rd party drivers. If you insist on use the MME drivers, you're going to have a lot of latency (delay).
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/03 12:34:48
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Yeah you are right. I will install the drivers from Creative. Not straightforward (Creative rather sells new cards) but much more support by other people on the web. Thanks. On the Creative support site it is listed under Live! 24-bit. Well hidden IMO as it seems to apply to all Live cards.
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/03 14:10:48
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It seems like Creative releases a new card about every 2 months so I can imagine its confusing. :)
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Re:KX-driver trouble, no audio
2013/02/04 23:35:37
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Oh now I remember that KX project. I forgot all about that. The idea was you could access your surround sound outputs and achieve 5 or 6 outputs with your SB card so if so equipped.
That was another one of my attempts to make the card work. It didn't.
Those drivers were for XP so that is why it won't work with Vista.
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