first mic please help

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2010/02/07 13:55:03 (permalink)

first mic please help

 yesterday i went and bought an audio-technica at2020 cardioid condenser mic to use with my sonar 8.52 producer set-up. i plugged it into the left input of my ua-25ex and switched on phantom power.
i created an audio track in sonar and selected ua-25ex left input. i can not figure out how to get sound from the mic. i armed the track, turned on input echo, twiddled all the knobs on the interface.
i can hear it faintly if i scratch the mic screen with my fingernail, and touching the mic body produces static noise. i had my mic and cable tested in the store and seemed to function.
 i can direct input my guitar into the interface without issue.
 i feel i must be stupidly missing something everybody here knows.
 please point me in the right direction.
 

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    DW_Mike
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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/07 14:00:36 (permalink)
    You shouldn't need the input echo unless you have an effect in the FX Bin that you want to hear.
    Have you tried turning up the gain to the input on the UA-25?
    Is there a control panel app to the UA  similar to the MOTU Cue Mix Console that might need to be turned up?
    Arm the track you're recording to. How strong is the signal there?

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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/07 14:19:15 (permalink)
    thank you mike.
     the track is armed  and there is signal bouncing around at close to the bottom of the meter. if the interface has a control panel app it is news to me but i did look just now.

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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/07 14:27:17 (permalink)
    You shouldn't need the input echo unless you have an effect in the FX Bin that you want to hear.


    Hey Mike, I never hear anything from my mic or guitar unless I have input echo on.  The meters are registering sound but nothing coming out until I hit input echo.  This is just the way I though it worked.  What could I be doing wrong?

    worstcaseontario -
    As far as getting a mic working - I had the same issue until I got a preamp. phantom power did nothing, but as soon and I went through a preamp I got all the volume I needed.

    As you see by my last comment I am a newbie and I may be steering you wrong, but it worked for me.
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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/07 14:43:03 (permalink)
    Hmm, I use a board that has direct monitoring so I've never used the input echo.
    Maybe you do need it.

    The UA does have pre-amps that should be strong enough to drive the mic so not sure whats going on here.

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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/07 15:28:33 (permalink)
    Someone has a similar problem not long ago.. I don't remember the fix...

    Did you try both inputs 1 and 2? I believe input 2 is a Hi-Z input.

    Does your mic have an XLR connector? That's needed for the phantom power.

    You have the sensitivity and output turned all the way up right?

    Are you using the jacks in the front of the unit, not the ones in the back?

    Make sure the Compressor/Limiter switch is off.

    When you installed the driver, did you have the unit unplugged. You're supposed to so if you didn't, uninstall the driver, unplug the UA-25ex and then reinstall the driver.

    Make sure the Stereo/Mono switch is set to Mono. A microphone is a mono device.

    Go into the US-25ex Control Panel and make sure the Direct Monitoring is on.
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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/07 15:57:13 (permalink)
    thank you dave.
     i have taken all of the steps you mentioned( at least i think so ). i think the drivers are ok because the interface works fine with a guitar going into it, but this is my first attempt at mic recording. i am used to a fair ammount of messing around whenever i try to add any technology to my musical endevours, so i will not be discouraged. although you can not recall the fix in the thread you mentioned, perhaps you can remember a keyword or something to help me find it. the obvious ones i could think of all lead me back to my own thread(which has no resolve yet)!

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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/07 16:48:30 (permalink)
    That wouldn't help... the Search engine on this forum is the worst search engine I've ever seen. It probably wouldn't find Cakewalk if you did a search on it. I think it has a bug in the By Author field.

    You're not trying to use it at 96KHz sample rate are you? If so, dial it back to 44.1KHz.
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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/08 20:21:01 (permalink)
    it was the damn cable. i don`t fully understand how i can take it back to the store when i first started trouble-shooting this and have it tested out to be ok and then find out it really  the problem after all. i guess i just have to accumulate more pre-amps and cables and stuff so i can actually trouble-shoot new equipment without having to drive half an hour to a gear shop to have a cable checked.
     thanks again to all who replied and i`ve said it before- this forum rules!
    now to learn to sing...

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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/09 00:07:47 (permalink)
    i guess i just have to accumulate more pre-amps and cables and stuff



    LOL, yep, sounds like as good an excuse as any to kick in the G.A.S (Gear Acquisition Syndrome)
    Let the game begin.


    Glad you got it straightened out, cheaply.


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    Re:first mic please help 2010/02/09 01:49:51 (permalink)
    You should always have spare cables, extra guitar strings and picks (if you own guitars), extra drumsticks (if you play drums), extra batteries (if any of your gear uses them)...

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