? for Benstat re: SonarPlus

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? for Benstat re: SonarPlus

As I understand it, SonarPlus is an attempt to bring back a toolbar which can be used by one hand clicking, instead of the retro "improvements" of X1(b) which make us hunt through menus and/or use a huge list of arcane keybindings--am I right?

I've updated X1 with the A patch, the B patch, and tonight I decided to bite the bullet and see what's happening with new B patch compatible SonarPlus.

Since I live in the PRV, I wanted to see how that would go with SonarPlus:

--The toolbar for note length values didn't appear as I understood it should with SonarPlus.
--The toolbar for note length value Does appear in, of all things, the Marker view.--- ?

Is this a known bug in SonarPlus?

RB

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    FastBikerBoy
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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 03:06:03 (permalink)
    LOL.... I've just realised something. I downloaded Sonarplus to try it out the other day in X1b and ended up trimming the sonarplus bar down to one item that I found useful, the full screen option.

    Then when I was editing in the PRV I noticed a toolbar alongside the PRV menu with the note length icons. I thought that's a snazzy new helpful addition to X1b. Then I decided not to use SOnarplus (as excellent as it is I'm not an icon type of guy) but when I next went to the PRV I noticed the note icons were gone. Thought I was going mad.

    Obviously they are part of SOnarplus.

    So in answer to your question Randy yes the note icons do work in Sonarplus in the PRV, or at least in x64 version.

    Now I'm going to take another look at Sonarplus and maybe start using it.

    Sorry to hijack your thread with tales of my incompetence.
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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 04:49:44 (permalink)
    Glad you got your install problem sorted out (I saw you were having trouble installing Plus in another thread).

    Well, I have to say it does look like you've found a bug. I'll have a look into it today.

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 06:09:33 (permalink)
    Bug confirmed. The workaround is to close Markers view and the PRV, and then reopen the PRV again and the buttons will be in the right place! Basically, whichever one you opened most recently (out of the PRV or Markers view) will have the buttons.
    Good find, I'll sort this out for the next update.
    Thanks,
    Ben

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 10:06:13 (permalink)
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    Bug confirmed. The workaround is to close Markers view and the PRV, and then reopen the PRV again and the buttons will be in the right place! Basically, whichever one you opened most recently (out of the PRV or Markers view) will have the buttons.
    Good find, I'll sort this out for the next update.
    Thanks,
    Ben


    Ah-, OK - Thanks, Ben.  And yes, I was having trouble with the install at first - it was stuck mid-install half way through the first several tries.  I just put it all away, came back later, and then it went fine.

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 17:18:46 (permalink)
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    As I understand it, SonarPlus is an attempt to bring back a toolbar which can be used by one hand clicking, instead of the retro "improvements" of X1(b) which make us hunt through menus and/or use a huge list of arcane keybindings--am I right?

    I've updated X1 with the A patch, the B patch, and tonight I decided to bite the bullet and see what's happening with new B patch compatible SonarPlus.

    Since I live in the PRV, I wanted to see how that would go with SonarPlus:

    --The toolbar for note length values didn't appear as I understood it should with SonarPlus.
    --The toolbar for note length value Does appear in, of all things, the Marker view.--- ?

    Is this a known bug in SonarPlus?

    RB
    Hi again RB,
    Thanks for your bug report earlier. The problem was caused by Plus confusing the Markers View with the PRV! I'm guessing that the Markers View isn't used a lot, which is why it slipped through the net (though I could be wrong). I've fixed it now, as well as a couple of other important things. It should be OK for you to download the latest version (1.0.0.8) and take a look at SONAR Plus again:
    http://www.sonarplus.co.uk/pages/downloads.aspx
    While Plus is oriented around the customizable toolbar, it does quite a few other things too. For a quick overview, have a look at:
    http://www.sonarplus.co.uk/pages/about.aspx
    I recommend cutting the toolbar down to size, even if you only end up with one button like FastBikerBoy! There are some things Plus can do that don't need any toolbar buttons anyway (ie. separate snap values for PRV and TV). For a future version, I'm looking into integrating more of the toolbar buttons into the SONAR view menus instead, like with the new PRV and CV buttons.
    Thanks again,
    Ben
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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 19:27:48 (permalink)
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    Hi again RB,
    Thanks for your bug report earlier. The problem was caused by Plus confusing the Markers View with the PRV! I'm guessing that the Markers View isn't used a lot, which is why it slipped through the net (though I could be wrong). I've fixed it now, as well as a couple of other important things. It should be OK for you to download the latest version (1.0.0.8)...


    Super!  I uninstalled yesterday's version, installed today's - You fixed it for sure.  Plus confusing Markers and PRV is exactly what was happening.

    I see the two different Snap settings are working - One for PRV, one for the rest.  But I thought my setting in PRV would be remembered after going to a different screenset and coming back. - It's reverting to the default 1/16th.  Is that right?

    Thanks, Ben - Great work!

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 19:50:22 (permalink)
    Hey Randy,
    I know that the snap setting is remembered correctly if you remain within the same screenset. However, all of the SONAR views are changed when a new screenset is activated, and in those circumstances yes, the snap does revert back to its default.
    However, I've never actually looked into seeing if I can maintain the snap setting between screensets. From your post I assume that's something you'd find useful, so I've added it to the list to look at for the next major update.
    Thanks,
    Ben

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/23 20:20:35 (permalink)
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    Hey Randy,
    I know that the snap setting is remembered correctly if you remain within the same screenset. However, all of the SONAR views are changed when a new screenset is activated, and in those circumstances yes, the snap does revert back to its default...

    Ah, I see -That makes sense, Ben.   The way I have my screensets now is I rely on them for switching between the major views - Track, Piano, Console.  But my PRV screen has a lot of tabbed views in the dock - Staff, Event, Tempo, Markers - so I actually can do a lot of work without switching screensets - especially since my PRV screenset has one track from the TV visible at the top.  With WizMouse, it's easy to go up there and scroll to the track I'm working on in the PRV.

    In other words, it's not as if I do a lot of switching between screensets.  I think you should just wait and see if other users are finding a need for the snap setting to be maintained when switching sets - I don't know how many others really find that to be a lack. - It's not especially awkward for me, not only because I don't switch between sets much, but because I usually work with the grid turned off anyway!   I just misunderstood earlier, thinking the snap value would remain when switching sets.

    Thanks again for the very nice app.

    Randy B.

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/24 00:45:35 (permalink)
    I'm glad you were at least able to contact the developer. I tried sending an e-mail to the "feedback" e-mail address on his site, only to get it bounced back to me the next day because it couldn't go through.

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/24 04:11:00 (permalink)
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    I'm glad you were at least able to contact the developer. I tried sending an e-mail to the "feedback" e-mail address on his site, only to get it bounced back to me the next day because it couldn't go through.

    Steve


    Sorry it didn't get through Steve. I've PM'd you.

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    Re:? for Benstat re: SonarPlus 2011/03/24 18:22:50 (permalink)
    Thanks for the quick reply, Ben. It appears there was a problem with my e-mail server handing the message off to yours. I didn't mean to imply you weren't responding though--you've been very responsive, from what I've seen in the forums.

    Steve

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