fx bin right-click delay/project load times - SOLVED

1)When I right click on a fx bin, there is a noticeable delay before the popup menu appears (3-5 sec). This has been a new but yet constant behavior with X3 Producer. This is true with an empty/new or working project.
 
2) What appears to be a second issue is when loading projects big or small, it takes about a minute. Otherwise, playback and recording is smooth.
 
Both of these behaviors used to be faster/snappier.  Wondering if I'm alone in experiencing this or this is normal for all of us. ?
 
 
 
My computer specs: Win 8.1, Q9550 Studiocat Daw, 8 gigs RAM, 3 SATA HDs, TC Impact Twin (ASIO buffer size range: 128 to 512), X3 Producer-64 bit
 
Drivers are monitored and kept up to date.
 
 
Thanks,
Dave
 
 
 

Since installing Waves I also get a delay with right-clicking.
Hopefully you find the answer to this!

Edit\Preferences\VST Settings\Replace VST2 Plugins When Opening Projects

You guys are the madness!! Thank for the help.  I'll report back and hopefully the OP gets what he needs!

John T
I had this very problem yesterday.
 
I dunno if it's waves-specific, or a general issue, but here's what I tracked it down to: I had a few waves plugins I was trialling, which I've since uninstalled, but the uninstalled plugins were still in my custom plugin layout (albiet greyed out). Getting rid of those entries and re-saving the layout fixed the problem.

Not to hijack this thread but I also had the same issue and it turned out to be vst's that I had uninstalled but were in my custom plugin layout. Thanks for the suggestion John T!

Guitarmech111
RESET the VST plugs in the plugin manager. DO NOT SCAN the VSTs. Close the plugin manager and reopen your project. See if that makes a difference. If it does make a difference, only scan one of your VST directories at a time and see if you can locate the offending DLL by checking out the FX listing after each scan.

Another suggestion I thought for this issue was to make a custom plugin list and have only a couple plugs as default. That way it should only try to pull a couple plugs in the list. I don't know if building or verifying the list is causing your problem or not though.

 
Thanks for the advice.
 
I followed your plan and it appears that I do have an offending vst adding to - or is the cause of this problem. Which ones or a combination of which ones is still a long and tedious journey to find. I found that removing the path for my main vst folder caused X3 to behave as normal - snappier, quicker, better. So I at least have eliminated several other folder paths containing vsts as problems.
 
The main VST folder had about 500 plugs in there. Way too many unused plugs that I was hoarding for a raining day I guess. So I got rid of all the 32 bit ones (saved them in another folder) and rarely used 64 bit plugs. And still I have the problem. Trying to identify which one of the remaining 250 is the pain right now - something I'm really running out of steam for. I probably have 3-4 hours invested in this. Side note, I'm dreaming of a more sophisticated plugin management screen that allows me to test and segregate/organize the plugs from the root window. Seems like low hanging fruit to please customers  - it's been requested formally many times.
 
Another thing, The graphics are sometimes glitchy on the console view with X3D. The counter stops/hangs/stutters. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
Anyway, I also opened up X2 to see if the problem is also happening with that version. Surprisingly, it's not. Works like a daw should. No glitches or plugin problems using the same directories. So the problem is definitely something with X3D.
 
Anyone here think I might also get to the resolution of this problem by uninstalling/re-installing X3?
 
Thanks!

Guitarmech111
IF you have that many plugins(500), you need to toss some out. How can you possibly use that many plugins? I understand the hoarding, but functionality should be more important. ;)
 
In X2, Make sure the VST scan paths are the same. If you have the same number of VSTs in X2 and X3, I would call tech support and report a problem.
 
Have you tried the custom layout as I suggested earlier? That may help with your current number of plugs and the plugin menu start too.

I was surprised at the number!!! However, I only have around fifty in my plugin manager custom layout. And to ease the load and guilt - I got rid of most of the plugs yesterday.
 
Yes - X2 is using the same custom layout. (with the same large number of plugs scanned)
 
Yes - I did try the layout you suggested and that's when I found out which directory that contained the plugs that was causing problems. I still need to distill that down to the problem plug or plugs.
 
Thanks for for you help.

There has to be a better way in the future. Looks like for now it's going to take a lot of time to find that special plug that keeps on giving. 

Well I tried the other default layouts first and they came up instantly which led me to clean up my custom one. I'll keep my fingers crossed in the hopes it works for you as well.

I'm having a similar issue when editing in the PRV, notes taking 3 secs to select or move. and if i nudge 5 times it takes up to 15 secs to complete. this is on a fresh project with only piano and tempo changes. x3d. :(

Some answers sort of:
 
After cleaning out several unused plugs with an eye on older plugs, the right click popup menu from the fx bin was more responsive. The time for it to open went from about 7 secs to around 4 secs. I was also still experiencing choppy graphics when in console mode, so I had to keep working to solve. All of this behavior was happening on both new and older projects. So last evening I recreated a brand new plugin layout rather than edit a current one. I also removed all vst3 plugs that I don't use. Even Melodyne as a plug since I always use Melodyne in the ara track clip mode now. The results - everything is working well!! The right click fx bin menu pops up instantly and the console menu graphics are smooth now. I'm not satisfied in that I don't really know which of the many changes I made was the key difference maker. But at least I'm get back working and this in the "????" category for now.
 
Thanks for all the helpful chiming in here. Much appreciated.