getting "Bounce to Clip" layers to appear

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2011/09/05 14:54:37 (permalink)

getting "Bounce to Clip" layers to appear

I've been creating v-vocal clips on a vocal track phrase by phrase, then hitting "Bounce to Clip" to process the effect before moving on to the next phrase. Most of the time I will see the newly created clip appear below the muted original ( I have see layers enabled) but occasionally the newly created clip is placed directly over top the muted original. Seems to be no ryhme or reason to when it happens. Sometimes if I uncheck and then recheck See Layers the new clip will move down below the muted original, but other times it just stays put on top. Is this a bug or am I missing a step to get the new clips to always appear as a layer underneath the muted original clip?

HP-500Y/Windows 7 64 bit/SONAR X1C/AMD Phenom II X6/Saffire 6/AT2035 mic/various Ovation and Alvarez guitars

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    Chappel
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    Re:getting "Bounce to Clip" layers to appear 2011/09/05 16:01:35 (permalink)
    How do your Record Options differ from the ones in the image below?



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    Re:getting "Bounce to Clip" layers to appear 2011/09/06 18:47:48 (permalink)
    The differences are:
    1. I am set to sound on sound instead of Overwrite
    2. Allow arm Changes during playback/record is unchecked

    Other than that, same set up as your screen shot. And it's not that I don't see the muted clips all of the time, only some of the time and there seems to be no pattern as to when i will or will not see them. Every once in a while the newly bouced v-vocal clip will be placed on top of the muted clip rather than immediately below it, and that's the part I'm trying to figure out.

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    Re:getting "Bounce to Clip" layers to appear 2011/09/07 13:55:01 (permalink)
    That's an annoying quirk of SONAR, the seemingly random way it decides the Z-order for displaying overlapping clips, and providing no option to re-order them.

    What I usually do is slip-edit the muted clip down to a sliver's width. That way it's not obscuring the live clip but if I ever need to get it back it's still there.



    In the top image, the muted clip is covering up the live clip. In the bottom image, I've slid the leading edge of the muted original clip over so it's out of the way. If I need to get the original back, it's a simple matter of sliding the left edge back to its original position and un-muting it.


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    Re:getting "Bounce to Clip" layers to appear 2011/09/07 14:12:57 (permalink)
    I got nothin' to add for changing the default layer behavior, but you can reorganize them after the dust settles by either rebuilding the layers or creating new layers and dragging the clips to where you want. Rebuilding layers will also delete empty layers. Right click where the red X is to see this menu.




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