good audio patchbay ?

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2007/06/23 18:45:26 (permalink)

good audio patchbay ?

hi !
i get tons of problems with my behringer patchbays so i plan to change them, but... for what ? Are you happy with yours ? Searching on the web, it don't seem much companies are making audio patchbays.. Any ideas ?
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    Joe Bravo
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/23 20:58:10 (permalink)
    No offence, but I can't imagine any problems with a patchbay by any manufacturer and especially Berhinger as this is the type of thing they do well. There's just nothing to a patchbay.
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/24 05:41:15 (permalink)
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    No offence, but I can't imagine any problems with a patchbay by any manufacturer and especially Berhinger as this is the type of thing they do well. There's just nothing to a patchbay.


    hmm.. in fact, there is : in behringer patchbay, female TRS are not locked on the rack, they are welded directly on the printed circuit, so after a few months of use, the weldment is broken and the electric signal do not pass anymore. I get twice and want to change them. Any idea ?
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/24 06:46:20 (permalink)

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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/24 07:17:23 (permalink)
    Thank you, ping ! I've already heard about neutriks and i think i'll try them !
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/24 07:59:53 (permalink)
    I am using a Furman (discontinued now) - never had a problem.

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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/24 09:15:38 (permalink)
    "the weldment is broken and the electric signal do not pass anymore. I get twice and want to change them"

    Sorry to hear that. That's the way it is with Behringer though, I think most of their products sound quite good, but a few of them dont' seem to hold up well. Looks like you've found one of the latter.

    I haven't owned a patchbay for several years. I think the only one I ever had was a Tascam RCA unit. Never had a problem with it.
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/24 10:26:29 (permalink)
    I agree. I also get a bcr2000 and an ultrafex from beringher and they're fine. But they did a bad job with the patch, and i've heard about mixer problems. Maybe it also depends of series : with the same product, sometimes you're happy, sometimes you're not..
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/24 14:01:34 (permalink)
    Yeah, the Eurorack mixers were great. I've had two of them for about 5 years with no problems. I don't remember which ones now, but a couple of guys here had problems with a specific series of Behringer mixers that came later. I've also got a Composer Pro-XL Compressor and a V-Amp2, both of wihch are several years old and going strong.
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/25 18:42:42 (permalink)
    If you don't mind soldering and or using punchblocks, the ADC propatch units can be had for a song on ebay these days. Mil-spec brass construction, ultra heavy duty. Pain to reconfigure though, and the punch tool costs around $100us.

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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/26 11:46:41 (permalink)
    I've got a couple Tascam patchbays and a dbx as well. All have been great over the years. As for Behringer, it's always hit or miss. I have a Eurodesk mixer that has been in use for 6 years now and it is rock solid. On the other hand, I have 3 Eurorack UB mixers and they have all bombed; bad power suplies. The worst thing about it is they do not sell replacements. You have to remove the power supply and have a tech repair it at the component level.

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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/26 12:13:48 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: ping
    Neutrik

    http://www.studiospares.com/pd_440910_NEU%2048%20WAY%20PATCH%20BAY.htm

    They are cheap and good

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    I heartily endorse this patch bay as well. I have two of them and they work flawlessly... and have for the past 4+ years. Much better feeling than my Re'ans.

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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/26 20:17:44 (permalink)
    I'm using a ProCo patchbay that I've had for at least ten years. Never a problem of any kind and it's easy to reconfigure with the flip of switches for each channel. Also, it was very reasonably priced (at least when I bought it---don't know what they go for now).

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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/26 20:27:08 (permalink)

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    Neutrik

    http://www.studiospares.com/pd_440910_NEU%2048%20WAY%20PATCH%20BAY.htm

    They are cheap and good

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    I heartily endorse this patch bay as well. I have two of them and they work flawlessly... and have for the past 4+ years. Much better feeling than my Re'ans.

    Corey




    And I will 3rd this. I have 2 as well. If you search around there site, there is also a cool little app called "patchlabel" which enables you to create, color and print your own labels. Much easier to read, well than my chicken scratch anyhow.

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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/06/27 16:12:09 (permalink)
    Thank you guys for sharing your experience ! Patchbay seems to be a difficult market, cause tascam, dbx and proco patchbays are no longer available in stores (new, i mean). I'm very interested in adc ones, but a little bit afraid about their plug system (soldering iron, what's that ??). So i think my new one will be called neutrik ! It's cheap, so it won't be a piggy-bank-break (?) if it only works for a year (hmm.. no, a year is not enough.) Hope it will not be like the Midi room behringer experience (beautifull studio, guys !) : 3 miss for 1 hit !
    Wait and see... (In any case, it can't be worth than my beringher's.. 2 miss - 100% bad !)
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    RE: good audio patchbay ? 2007/07/02 02:58:02 (permalink)
    Get the dbx PB-48 from GC (Musicians' Friend). Industry standard, about $130, and easily configurable for half or full-normalled operation.
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