hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard

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2018/01/27 23:22:30 (permalink)

hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard

Please help. Although I am not new to midi, I am having such a difficult time trying to configure a simple midi keyboard system setup using Sonar X1.  I am a novice musician who had been away from recording and playing for quite a number of years.  Now that I have some time to play and create, I would like to get started again.  Years ago, I was able to call the Cakewalk support center and they were kind enough to configure my setup.  It was working fine.  But recently, I must have changed something in the preference screens and can't get the music keyboard to activate any soft synths.  I could really use some help with what I need to do in getting my simple system configured.  I am trying to use a Korg Poly-800 to communicate with my HP Pavillion windows 7 system via a Tascam US-12mkII.  I watched a few videos on Sonar University, read the Sonar X1 by Scott Garrigus but I am having a lot of trouble.  Any help that can be provided will really help this old rock and roller.  Thanks.   
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    bitman
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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/28 02:22:36 (permalink)
    You should be plugging the usb keyboard directly into one of the Pavillion's usb ports.
    Windows should acknowledge you did that. If not your keyboard may have a electrical fault or the windows driver in twisted.
     
    If windows sees the keyboard then it should also show up in SONAR's preferences dialog under midi devices. Where if so you can select and get going. Then in midi tracks the keyboard should be available as an input.
     
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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/28 02:58:59 (permalink)
    Is that an original Poly 800? Wow that was my first keyboard. It was nice and portable and teamed with my Roland 505 was my first live midi bass player. I think I traded a Fender Twin for it. 
     
    So we will assume your using real midi via your interface. 
    Make sure you have the Tascams midi ports checked in Preferences/Midi/devices/Input. 
    Then you chose the Tascams midi port /OMNI as the input for the midi track. 
    I know this sounds dumb, but make sure you have your midi cables connected correctly the keyboard output to to the tascam input. 
    There also might be a setting in the Korg that activates midi output and chooses a channel. 
     


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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/28 03:15:50 (permalink)
    Thank you Bitman.  The Poly-800 is an old midi keyboard from the '80's and I have the (midi Out) cable running out into the Tascam (midi In) as an interface to the Pavilion via a usb connection.  The computer recognizes the interface. The midi icon on the computer lights up when I press a music key and lights up when I release the music key.  So information is getting from the Poly-800 to the computer.  But it is not yet being recognized by Sonar.  There must be something with the settings in Sonar that I am having trouble.  Any ideas what it could be? 
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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/28 03:48:20 (permalink)
    Thank you Cactus Music.  Your chart help me solve what was going on.  As simple as clicking on the "input echo on" icon and the sounds started playing.  Thank you.  So if I understand this correctly, does the "input echo on" mean that the signal needs to be repeated to get to the soft synth?  If that is the case, I will need to always have that button activated when using any soft synth and have it deactivated if I want to us the sound of the Poly-800.  I haven't used the sounds of the Poly-800 in a long time and only use it to be a small convenient controller for the soft synths. 
     
    But you are right.  It is an original Poly-800.  I bought it new when I was still in high school and it has worked very nicely all these years.  It has gotten a lot of wear in its day and is still fun to break out and tool around. My son has been playing around with it and it sparked my renewed interest in getting back into the creative groove and recording musical ideas.   I wanted to get the music keyboard and the computer communicating properly before I connect it to a slightly larger (but still a midi dinosaur) keyboard that I used, a Korg DS-8.  With that keyboard, I will be able to take advantage of its touch sensitive ability.  The Poly-800 does not have that capability. Thanks again for your help.  
     
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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/28 07:32:03 (permalink)
    I had a Poly-800 'back in the day', really liked it. Nice little keyboard with some good sounds.

     
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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/28 17:42:55 (permalink)
    When using MIDI, you need a softsynth to play the notes. If wanting to use the keyboard sounds, you will either need a softsynth with those, or get them directly from the keyboard via audio connections (not MIDI). Be advised to set all volume levels to zero (I would also power off the keyboard) when making/breaking audio connections. Volumes at zero, then power on, then bring up volume slowly till you get a feel for normal levels. Power off in reverse.

    If that keyboard has a VSTi (softsynth) version, you can use that with your MIDI setup now if so inclined.

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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/29 02:15:33 (permalink)
    http://www.vstplanet.com/Instruments/VST_Synthesizers31.htm
     
    You got me looking, was easy to find one. Works great but is 32 bit only. They have a bunch of freebies there I downloaded the harmonium and a Piano. All 32 bit but I love these simple VST's on a rainy day> 
     


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    Re: hardest time trying to configure midi keyboard 2018/01/30 21:46:21 (permalink)
    Thanks to all who responded.  I am loving the program, now that I have it up and running with your help and guidance.  The Poly-800 that I use is really only used to access and control the soft synths.  The Poly-800 itself has some good sounds (albeit very dated).  But when I used it decades ago, I ran it through various pedal effects which gave it some cool depth and character.  My other board that I used was a Korg DS-8 which then controlled a Roland Soundcanvas for live performances and recording using a program called Sequencer Plus (a midi only recording program).  But with Sonar having so many great soft synths, I can keep my setup pretty simple with fewer wires. Catcus Music - I will have to download the Poly-800 soft synth for fun.  Thanks again for all your help.  Cheers! 
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