bgmetivier
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help with midi from Finale to Dimension
Years ago I bought Finale and have faithfully upgraded each time. I want better sounds, so I bought P5 and Dimension Pro, though I already have Sonar 6.
NOW, what is the reason when I export a midi file from Finale, and pick it up in Sonar 6 and place in a midi track set up for Dimension Pro with the proper program loaded, it plays back "NO SOUND" though if I place that same midi in a track with PSYNII, it plays just fine.
I feel stupid asking this question, but I can't figure it out.
Bob M
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/12 21:47:58
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with the proper program loaded, it plays back "NO SOUND" First guess: Some of the instruments in Dimension Pro are limited to a common or comfortable range for the instrument that it's emulating. Try transposing up or down an octave, and see if that gives you some results. There's also all of those different conventions on note-numbering schemes that may be part of it. Why don't you post a few examples of the particular Dimension programs that you're using? Then someone can check the actual range of notes produced.
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/12 21:59:10
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Midi contoller mismatch? You set a sound in Finale and the messages react with Dpro the wrong way?
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/12 22:45:51
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I was concerned about that as well. So i tested it with a piano pogram load to make sure that was not the case... no sound still
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/12 22:49:39
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These were just notes typed into Finale and exported as midi
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/12 23:16:55
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i tested it with a piano pogram load to make sure that was not the case... no sound still Piano should've covered it. Dimension Pro receives over Omni, so it's not MIDI channels. Unless ... you happen to have Set Program to Multitimbral inadvertently ticked in the Options menu (of DP). I suppose that it's possible that the MIDI file is set to a channels between 5 and 16, and Dimension could be looking for channels 1-4 (under Multitimbral mode). Doesn't seem very likely, though. One difference between PSYN and Dimension Pro (that I can think of offhand) is that DP responds globally to CC#7 (channel volume). PSYN doesn't. Is there a way that you can force a CC#7 value of 127 (with your controller, or within Sonar) to see if that might be the problem?
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/12 23:44:55
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That was a great idea re: CC#7 controller. But I checked it, added varying CC#7 through the file, and still not a sound.... I know at the end of this it's going to be something stupid, but all the logic I've used has not worked. This looked like a really good possibility. Thanks for a great idea.
Bob
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/13 08:17:14
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If you can, post a link to the MIDI file or email it to rene at cakewalk dot com, I'll check it out.
-René
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/13 10:22:19
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You will need to send me an amil address, as I cannot add files to this forum. Thanks, Bob bob@psalms.ws
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/13 17:07:40
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ORIGINAL: bgmetivier
You will need to send me an amil address, as I cannot add files to this forum.
Thanks, Bob
bob@psalms.ws
He did: rene at cakewalk dot com
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bgmetivier
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/13 17:23:07
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I understand that it looks like that he did this already, but this email, when configured correctly, bounces.
So, I just need for Rene to email me directly, and I will forward results to this forum if it affects the outcome for reference purposed.
Bob M
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/14 08:27:29
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Oops my fault, sorry. rceballos at cakewalk dot com.
-René
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/14 20:07:14
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Thank you, Rene'/
I'll send the file on to you.
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/16 00:38:05
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Rene,
I figured out two things that I would like your feedback on . Apparently Finale automatically attaches its human feedback to midi files that are extracted. Is it possible that Dimension does not know how to deal with that midi information.
I stripped out the HP part before exporting it, and then I got it to PLAY 2 NOTES only.
So I went into the Audio driver (I run an Edirol UA1000) and I enabled read and write cahing and upped in from 128K to 256K. Then it plays. It stutters some time, but it does play the midi file with HP stripped out.
Bob
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/18 04:46:49
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Bob..
I tried looking at a MIDI file I exported from Finale with the 'humanised' playback....and all it seemed to do was bung some sustain pedal in, which of course doesn't cause Dim Pro any problems.
andrew Sonar 8.5 PE, Saffire LE, Garritan Steinway & Orchestra, EZDummer, Rapture, Truepiano, no voice, little talent
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/18 11:45:36
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It must be in my audio driver then, and just taking out that extra information allowed it to run... I'm running an Edirol UA-1000 with an ASIO Driver. What are the best settings for this?
Also, I have quite a bit of memory, but was wondering if Dim Pro requires a dual processor or more memory to run well. I have an AMD 2.8GHz
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/18 20:38:27
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I have quite a bit of memory, but was wondering if Dim Pro requires a dual processor or more memory to run well. I have an AMD 2.8GHz I'm running it away from home on a similar machine. No problems on a tweak-y clean setup, but a gig of memory is cutting things close. You might try experimenting with the Mode setting in the Multisample editor if you have memory to spare. 32-bit uses twice the memory, as a tradeoff for a lower CPU hit. The setting gets saved in a .prog file.
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RE: help with midi from Finale to Dimension
2006/10/22 19:46:33
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I'm sure that there is good link on this forum for tweaking your unit.... because I'm also getting a lot of break up in Sonar here and there, though I am using an ASIO driver for my Editol UA-1000.
It's beginning to look as though the need to tweak is the msot significant thing behind my problem with Dim Pro. I assume Rapture has the same, if not greater needs.
Bob M
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