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how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio?

I am unfamiliar with the jargon, so please explain it clearly!!!
i have connected the computer USB to the midi in and out.
i don't have a clue which studio page i should be on!
i have never used the software before
what i want to do is send the setting for each tune to the computer, then before i play that tune i send the settings back to the yamaha.
might be using a sequencer?
thanks all
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 17:35:24 (permalink)
Hey, anon125,  welcome to the forum.  A good starting place for you is to post your basic system specs (see my system specs at bottom of signature for example) so we can narrow down the questions.  First question is- as your keyboard has no USB port, how are you connecting your midi keyboard to a computer USB; a soundcard/mixer interface or a hardware midi/USB converter? 
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 18:51:01 (permalink)
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I am unfamiliar with the jargon, so please explain it clearly!!!
i have connected the computer USB to the midi in and out.
i don't have a clue which studio page i should be on!
i have never used the software before
what i want to do is send the setting for each tune to the computer, then before i play that tune i send the settings back to the yamaha.
might be using a sequencer?
thanks all


You will want to have a sysex dump from the Yamaha to X1. Look up sysex in the help file and the manual.

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 18:51:10 (permalink)
the keyboard has an in and out midi.
it is connected to the USB port on the computer.
thanks
PS tech data not needed.
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 18:52:56 (permalink)
SYSEX did not turn up in sonar X! studio help files.
or keyboad manual
http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi/english/port/psre313_en_om.pdf
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 18:55:45 (permalink)
anon125


the keyboard has an in and out midi.
it is connected to the USB port on the computer.
thanks
PS tech data not needed.

I think you want to move the "songs" you have recorded in your Yamaha to midi tracks in Sonar?
You may have to "play' them to Sonar while recording midi, or, use Sonar as the recording device to begin with.

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 19:03:54 (permalink)
I don't think so.
each tune we play has it's own instruments, beat etc.
we wish to save each one on the computer - sonic X! studio, so we can then reload the settings to the keyboard before playing the tune. - on the keyboard - not using sonic then.
we did this decades ago when cakewalk was on 5inch floppies!
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post edited by anon125 - 2011/09/10 19:04:56
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 19:10:55 (permalink)
I use a PSR-2100. You can record midi or you can record audio... or you can disable "local control" and use it and a midi controller for softsynths. If you use it through the midi, it will playback through it's speakers when you replay. If you record it will just record an audio track like a guitar or vocal.

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 19:12:36 (permalink)
Use this Sysx for Sonar. Page 1066.

If you have MIDI files on your hardware synth you will want to transfer them to the Sonar. Sysex is is used to save user patches and other setup data for the synth. It can be sent to Sonar as a sysex dump.

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 19:23:50 (permalink)
Use this Sysx for Sonar. Page 1066.

where is that page!
the yamaha manual has only 90 pages and i don't see page numbers in sonar. 1 looked in the forum
and where in sonar do i find what i send.
thanks
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 19:50:17 (permalink)
we wish to save each one on the computer - sonic X! studio, so we can then reload the settings to the keyboard before playing the tune. - on the keyboard - not using sonic then.

 
John seams to be on the right path here - you want something that saves your Yamaha based songs - a librarian of some sort. Sonar can take your sysex files as a dump, but is probably not the thing you are looking for (I think.)
 
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 20:02:53 (permalink)
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Use this Sysx for Sonar. Page 1066.

where is that page!
the yamaha manual has only 90 pages and i don't see page numbers in sonar. 1 looked in the forum
and where in sonar do i find what i send.
thanks


The Sonar X1 reference manual. Its a PDF and can be searched. It has over 1800 pages.

Your synth manual can only tell you how to dump sysex. It can not tell you how to receive it.


Everything you want to do can be done with X1. But you need to read how. 

 

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 20:13:23 (permalink)
Your synth manual can only tell you how to dump sysex. It can not tell you how to receive it.

 
Is a sysex dump really the best way to bring songs (projects) in and out of a synth?

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 20:14:31 (permalink)
no i do not want to record what i play
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 20:17:29 (permalink)

Everything you want to do can be done with X1. But you need to read how.
That is why i used the forum!
got the pdf and found the page  1066 - don't understand it - but i have it!
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013228
yes the yamaha has to send the settings and the sonic receive them.
then later the sonic will send them and the yamaha receive them.
 
i justy need to know how!
thanks
post edited by anon125 - 2011/09/10 20:21:53
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 20:18:46 (permalink)
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no i do not want to record what i play
thanks

no i do not want to record what i play thanks

 
Why do you want a DAW?

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 20:30:16 (permalink)
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Everything you want to do can be done with X1. But you need to read how.
That is why i used the forum!
got the pdf and found the page  1066 - don't understand it - but i have it!
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013228
yes the yamaha has to send the settings and the sonic receive them.
then later the sonic will send them and the yamaha receive them.
 
i justy need to know how!
thanks


What is sonic?

Although the forum can do a lot in teaching how to do things its not meant to be a tutorial on Sonar. I would very much like to go through how to do this but its more difficult to explain then it would be for you to read about it in the manuals. If you have a specific question I may be able to answer. At present its much to much to relate. Also you need to know how your synth can dump its data. I can't tell you that.



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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 21:02:08 (permalink)
Well, thanks i did NOT ask for a tutorial on all there is to sonar.
but
here is how you can help
in Sonar we want to end up with a list of tunes - with their settings, beat, voice etc. so we can select one and then send it to the yamaha.
where in Sonar X1 Studio will i find the page where they were sent to?
Sonar has soooooooooooooo many functions and settings etc.
we just need one - but the right one
 
thanks John
PS and if you know the trick to stop the box popping up all the time "conexant pebble high definition smart audio" please let me know!- i have no idea what to do with it - press yes? press no? neither stop it coming back
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 21:06:58 (permalink)
Data that can be loaded to the PSR-E313/YPT-
310 from a computer
• Songs : 99 Songs max (Song numbers 108–)
• Data : 373 kilobytes
• Data Format : SMF Format 0
• File : 07PK3.BUP (Backup file)
: ***.mid (MIDI Song)
: ***.sty (Style File)
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 21:19:05 (permalink)
in Sonar we want to end up with a list of tunes - with their settings, beat, voice etc. so we can select one and then send it to the yamaha. where in Sonar X1 Studio will i find the page where they were sent to?

 
Sonar does not do what you want the way you want it done.  Wrong software.
 
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 21:52:01 (permalink)
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in Sonar we want to end up with a list of tunes - with their settings, beat, voice etc. so we can select one and then send it to the yamaha. where in Sonar X1 Studio will i find the page where they were sent to?
 
Sonar does not do what you want the way you want it done.  Wrong software.
 
Brian
Okay - what do you reccomend?
thanks


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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 22:20:51 (permalink)
It might do at least some of what you want using play lists. However you will need to set up each project for this sort of use.  Sending sysex is not a problem for a project to set up the hardware via the play list.

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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 22:25:25 (permalink)
Thanks - i will look up playlists in sonar
UPDATE all i find is publishing songs to the internet.
 
how do i get a refund?
thanks
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 22:32:16 (permalink)
I don't know how you do your research but play lists are very much not about the internet.



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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 23:32:07 (permalink)
Publishing music on the Internet
Cakewalk Publisher allows you to easily present and share your music online. With Cakewalk
Publisher, you can create a customized streaming music player with a playlist of your music, upload
it to your personal or band's website, and embed it in any other website.
and
Once your player has been configured and your playlist is put
together, click
Publish to upload your files to the Internet
 
in the large pdf the ONLY mention of playlists was in regard to the internet

your condesending post merits an apology from you.
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 23:43:15 (permalink)
how do i get a refund? thanks

 
Call Cakewalk.  Problem is that the software does what it says it will do - so you won't have much ground to stand on.
 
Play lists play projects one after the other - and you can program each project to dump a sysex to your keyboard, but, you will have to navigate how to send and recieve sysex from your synth - which has little to do with Sonar.
 
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/10 23:52:09 (permalink)
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Publishing music on the Internet
Cakewalk Publisher allows you to easily present and share your music online. With Cakewalk
Publisher, you can create a customized streaming music player with a playlist of your music, upload
it to your personal or band's website, and embed it in any other website.
and
Once your player has been configured and your playlist is put
together, click
Publish to upload your files to the Internet
 
in the large pdf the ONLY mention of playlists was in regard to the internet

your condesending post merits an apology from you.

Try searching the PDF for "play list"; i.e., as 2 words. I don't have the same version you do so I can't give you a page #, but you should find something on the "Play List View", which is what Brian's describing.
 
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/12 11:38:32 (permalink)
thanks
play list view is on page 1795.
doesn't seem to do what i need.
suggestions welcome before i try for a refund.
we wish to send the system exlusive?? settings for each tune from the yamaha to sonar X1 Studio.
then in sonar end up with a list of tunes. so that we can set the keyboard up with the selected settings for each tune by sending them from Sonar.
we are NOT recording the notes, just the voice, beat etc settings
thanks again
 
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/12 13:29:52 (permalink)
The Sysx View (note CW's spelling for lookup in the PDF) will let you store & send up to 256 banks of settings, but as other have said, you need to know how to dump those settings from your Yamaha first in order to save them there. See if the Yamaha manual says anything about how to do a "bulk dump".
 
If you can't do a "bulk dump" from the Yamaha that Sysx View won't do you any good, but otherwise it can act as a librarian for saving different song settings which you can send back to your keyboard as needed.
 
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Re:how do i transfer settings from the yamaha psr e313 to sonar X1 studio? 2011/09/12 14:13:21 (permalink)
yes i can do the bulk dump from the yamaha
but i need to know what to do in sonar X1 studio to get a list
thanks
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