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2015/06/15 20:46:17 (permalink)

huh?

Just curious of your initial response to the top video here titled "huh?" https://www.youtube.com/CrystalClearNM
 

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    Re: huh? 2015/06/15 20:56:30 (permalink)
    What?...Cool tune for sure. Is this your band or a solo effort?

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    Re: huh? 2015/06/15 23:33:46 (permalink)
    Solo effort...I'll take that as a compliment and thank you very much sir.
    I think one of my biggest concerns at this point is if the drums are too busy.
    Thanks very much Clint,
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 03:01:18 (permalink)
    Hi Randy,
     
    This is a pleasant and interesting composition and kept me listening right to the end 
     
    I think the drums are fine personally... If you want to hear a good example of "drums are too busy" my track Io certainly fills that slot...
     
    Everything is very tight. How was this created? A few of us here rely mostly on MIDI and I can't decide if this is a MIDI composition or played live. I would say MIDI, but I hope that does not offend?
     
    The video works perfectly with the tune 
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 08:29:48 (permalink)
    Thanks very much Andy, that's good to hear!
    Yessir, it's all MIDI...other than the arp synth (Alchemy), it's all East West Composer Cloud VSTs.
    Thanks again Andy!

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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 09:00:41 (permalink)
    Drums are not too busy. It's a nice counterpoint to the slow-moving melody. It could even tolerate a little tasteful hand percussion and still not be too busy.
     
    I like the combination of the bright bass + piano.


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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 09:40:28 (permalink)
    It could even tolerate a little tasteful hand percussion and still not be too busy.
    Interesting Dave, what are you hearing... like sparse congas maybe?
    Thanks,
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 10:11:40 (permalink)
    Very nice Randy. I enjoyed listening to it all through out and heard all the instruments clearly (on H-Phones). LOL on the gorilla dance at the end.
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 11:04:10 (permalink)
    Very nice Randy - kept my interest throughout.
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 11:15:23 (permalink)
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    Yessir, it's all MIDI...



    Brilliant Randy, thanks for letting me know... It's a well arranged MIDI tune and doesn't sound "mechanical" at all.
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 11:45:53 (permalink)
    Very pleasant. I didn't think the drums were too much. +1 on congas or suchlike. Well mixed generally, though I was becoming consciously aware of your violin "swells" in volume, maybe a little less of those would be in order. Dynamics are desirable, but sometimes, the movement from softer to louder can "ramp up" too quickly, and I wonder if that's what I was noticing.
     
    I'll have another cup of coffee and listen again! well done, huh?
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/16 12:31:15 (permalink)
    Thanks very much guys!
    Well mixed generally, though I was becoming consciously aware of your violin "swells" in volume, maybe a little less of those would be in order.
    Yeah, I already put a volume envelope knocking those swells down by several db but was wondering if I should bring them down even more so thanks for that.
    Actually what I need to do is spend more time learning the articulations in that particular vst (EW Gypsy Violin) but since subscribing to Composer Cloud I've been like a kid in a candy store just kinda "tasting" everything. 
    Thanks again guys, I'll let you know when I upload a newer version.

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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 03:27:32 (permalink)
    Nice track Randy.
     
    I agree with Bit. Find a few percussion loops and drop them in. It tends to make the midi stuff "gel" a lot better.
     
    I'd also drop the level of the hi hat. It tends to jump out a bit on my system.
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 09:23:08 (permalink)
    I agree with Bit. Find a few percussion loops and drop them in. It tends to make the midi stuff "gel" a lot better.
     
    Is there a particular instrument (conga, agogo, etc) you're hearing Peter? ...and also do you mean just reinforcing the groove already there or do you mean accents on a beat that's not there? 

    I'd also drop the level of the hi hat. It tends to jump out a bit on my system.
     
     
    I'll assume you mean the accents on (every other) beat 3 and 1...if so you're probably right I was really trying to bring out that groove (and left it too hot). I'll bring it down or replace it totally with something else (maybe an agogo or cabasa would work well) but I do want to bring out that loping/swing feel it gives.
     
    Thanks very much Peter,
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    EDIT: I'm also wondering if I should replace the choir parts with brass?
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 11:14:06 (permalink)
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    I agree with Bit. Find a few percussion loops and drop them in. It tends to make the midi stuff "gel" a lot better.
     
    Is there a particular instrument (conga, agogo, etc) you're hearing Peter? ...and also do you mean just reinforcing the groove already there or do you mean accents on a beat that's not there? 

    I'd also drop the level of the hi hat. It tends to jump out a bit on my system.
     
     
    I'll assume you mean the accents on (every other) beat 3 and 1...if so you're probably right I was really trying to bring out that groove (and left it too hot). I'll bring it down or replace it totally with something else (maybe an agogo or cabasa would work well) but I do want to bring out that loping/swing feel it gives.
     
    Thanks very much Peter,
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    EDIT: I'm also wondering if I should replace the choir parts with brass?
     




    Yes, I would drop in a loop to reinforce the groove.
     
    The minute you add a groove that has a real human feel to it, it gives the track a lot more "feel".
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 16:53:40 (permalink)
    Great job on this and the video helped it to all come together. Bit may have something going on in that mind of his. I to like percussion and lots of it, so have fun and enjoy. Very nicely done so far.
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 17:40:24 (permalink)
    Yes, I would drop in a loop to reinforce the groove.
     
    The minute you add a groove that has a real human feel to it, it gives the track a lot more "feel".
     
    I haven't used loops in ages but using the browser, I poked around in cakewalk content and all of them appear to be in 4 (and mostly full beats)...this piece is in 3/4.
    Am I missing something here?
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 17:44:12 (permalink)
    Randy, this is really impressive.  I like the way it all syncs up and the flow of this music.  You've already receive good advice, so I'll just take my hat off to you.

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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 17:45:14 (permalink)
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    Great job on this and the video helped it to all come together. Bit may have something going on in that mind of his. I to like percussion and lots of it, so have fun and enjoy. Very nicely done so far.
     
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    Thanks John, I've been a drummer for over 4 decades so I'm into lots o' percussion too!
    I have E-drums so maybe I'll try to play some more stuff in (and not quantize of course) unless someone knows where I can find some 3/4 loops.
    Thanks again,
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 17:57:43 (permalink)
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    Randy, this is really impressive.  I like the way it all syncs up and the flow of this music.  You've already receive good advice, so I'll just take my hat off to you.


    Thanks Lynn, it's kinda funny how it came together ... it started out with me just softly playing that main theme (starting at 0:29) on a piano... I liked the progression but it was a friggin waltz! 
    I started beefing it up and then wondered how it would work with people dancing a traditional waltz...I found it so weird I made the working title "huh?"
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 19:47:26 (permalink)
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    It could even tolerate a little tasteful hand percussion and still not be too busy.
    Interesting Dave, what are you hearing... like sparse congas maybe?
    Thanks,
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    Yes, congas, bongos, cajon, shakers, that sort of thing. The kind of percussion that fills in the gaps without taking over. 
     
    I'm also a fan of the lowly tambourine; I use one in almost everything even though its presence is often not noticeable until pointed out. It can add a subtle dynamic lift to the chorus. I like to keep the tambourine hits sparse, e.g. doubling the snare on every 4th hit, but with a long reverb.


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    Re: huh? 2015/06/17 20:27:29 (permalink)
    I like it but it needs a story.
     
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/23 10:43:18 (permalink)
    Nice tune - thanks for sharing - good job!
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    Re: huh? 2015/06/23 14:07:39 (permalink)
    This has a very nice feel to it Randy and does not come over as being MIDI'ed.  I like, thanks for sharing

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    Re: huh? 2015/06/29 14:45:02 (permalink)
    Nice job, Randy!  I liked the way you synced the video up, particularly a few of the hits that were spot on to your music.   Love the groove...
     

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