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2012/01/17 06:14:34 (permalink)

i7 2600K vs i7 3930K

Has anyone done a comparison between these 2 CPU's yet?

Is the price difference enough to warrant at least considering utilizing the 3930K in a new DAW?

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/01/17 06:57:28 (permalink)
    Does this look like a good deal?:

    http://www.novatech.co.uk...ndles/mbb-i7268k.html#

    RAM upgrade to 16Gb + £40.00 to 24Gb + £80.00

    I won't be overclocking so the stock cooler should be fine, I think.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/01/17 08:37:54 (permalink)
    I don't have any comment on the CPU's, but that is an interesting concept of selling a motherboard with the CPU and memory already installed and tested.  Takes the "barebones" systems to a different level.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/01/17 08:45:09 (permalink)
    Yes. I did this when I built my new internet/office/games machine back last Summer.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/01/17 09:45:37 (permalink)

    I won't be overclocking so the stock cooler should be fine, I think.

     
    FWIW, The stock cooler is crap... (albeit a litle less crappy than the 2600k's stock cooler)
    Don't cheap out on this part.  A quality 3rd party unit is quieter... and keeps the CPU cooler.
     
    For straight up audio production, the 3930k is likely overkill.
    For most folks, the 2600k at 4.5GHz provides plenty of mix fire-power.
    Not worth the extra expense for the typical user...
    For the power-user... and especially video editing or hard-core composers, the 3930k is a good choice.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/01/17 09:48:38 (permalink)
    Thanks Jim.

    Just the sort of info I need!

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/01/17 09:52:34 (permalink)
    the 3930k is about 40% faster @ 4.5GHz thatn the 2600k @ 4.5GHz
     
    http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm
     
    2nd graph down
     
    as jim said the 2600 is more than enough for most.
    unless you are doing heavy sampling or absurd track counts and effects

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/01/17 15:06:07 (permalink)
    Looks like I'll go for the 2600K then.

    So, apart from replacing the stock cooler, and increasing the ram, any other concerns with the bundle I linked to above?


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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/02/10 05:05:03 (permalink)
    Just in case anyone was following this thread, Carillon in the UK are currently offering an i7 3930 system which seems like a really good deal.

    I might even pull the plug on my old box and go for this one.

    Any reason why I shouldn't? Scott/Jim?

    http://www.carillonac1.co...ew&category_id=197


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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/02/15 09:46:53 (permalink)
    take a look at Scan UK

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/02/17 04:53:56 (permalink)
    Thanks Scott.

    Yesterday I ordered the Carillon machine

    Can't Wait!!!!

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/02/17 07:21:54 (permalink)
    Congrats!  If you going from the Q6700 to an i7 3930k that will be a significant jump.  I recently upgraded to a i7 2600k and was very glad I did.

    Best of luck with the new machine.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/02/20 05:16:37 (permalink)
    Thanks Tom. Carillon are even picking up my interface so they can configure it properly for use with X1.

    They have also agreed to install X1, right up to whatever update level we're at (I'm hoping this will be X1d - come on Cakewalk!!), and they are also going to install my BFD2 software, including all the expansion packs that I own.

    All this for an additional £12

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/08 14:30:11 (permalink)
    It's arrived!

    Thanks UPS - expected delivery time 9:00am  - 5:00pm

    Arrival time - 5:03pm

    I took the day off hoping to get an early start sorting everything out.

    Ah well, it's here now, so what do I do with my old one?

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/09 07:38:23 (permalink)

    Bristol_Jonesey said...
    Thanks UPS - expected delivery time 9:00am - 5:00pm

    Arrival time - 5:03pm

    LOL!

    Man, I've so been there (taking the day off and all)!

    Let us know how well that beast works.  You probably won't get much sleep now that it is here!
    As for your older machine, I'd definitely hold on to it for a little while until you get all the knicks out of the new machine.  You know if you give it away or wipe it, that is when you'll realize there as something one it that you didn't backup! 
    Enjoy!

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/10 03:12:27 (permalink)
    It's not been easy so far.

    I'm having huge problems getting a lot of my plugs authorised (mainly IK Multimedia)
    I can't run 2 monitors at the moment because the 2nd video port is Dvi-D
    EWQLSO won't show up in 64 bit Sonar
    BFD's drum maps are all over the place

    The machine itself seems really fast & responsive so I'm looking forward to doing some real work on it, but it won't be just yet

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/10 16:31:35 (permalink)
    Bristol_Jonesey

    I'm having huge problems getting a lot of my plugs authorised (mainly IK Multimedia)
    The old method of authorising IK Multimedia plugins is extremely tedious.  However they now have a new alternative method which is much simpler.  Before you open the plugins that you have installed, run Authorization Manager and type in (or copy & paste) the relevant serial numbers.  That's all you need to do.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/12 08:12:27 (permalink)
    I eventually managed to get them all authorised.

    For anyone else reading this thread with interest, the problem was that each and every T-RackS plugin comes with an outdated version of Auth. Manager which install itself by default.

    Downloading & installing the latest version from IK however did not solve the problem because the uninstall routine did NOT remove the old entries in the registry.

    Once I did that & reinstalled version 1.05, the authorisation was pretty painless.

    I posted this on the IK forum, but a mod got dead pissy about me suggesting registry tweaks and deleted my post and basically gave me a warning.

    How about if their downloads included the latest version of their Auth Manager - ever think about that IKM?????

    This cost me about 12 hours of time, my stress levels & blood pressure went into overdrive and the rest of the family knew well enough to leave me alone.

    It wasn't a great weekend for them either.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/12 09:46:23 (permalink)
    What about EWQL? Did you manage to solve that one?





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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/12 14:56:53 (permalink)
    No Algeria, that is my main outstanding issue now.

    Everything else is, as far as I know, functioning smoothly, and extremely fast!

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/13 07:58:34 (permalink)
    Yeah, I downloaded the free EWQL for 64-bit a while back (not sure if they still offer it or not).  I've never been able to get that thing to install on a 64-bit OS.  As it was free, I wasn't all that concerned and just put it aside.  Guess they had their chance to make me want their products.

    I'm not saying that the paid versions won't work.  Just the free one they were offering a while back.

    I will admit the IK authorization stuff is a bit messed up I reimaged my machine about a month ago and had a similar issue there (older authorization mgr wanted to get installed).  Thankfully, I figured it out after the first bad attempt and every other install I did I canceled out of the auth. mgr. install.

    Please let us know your experiences with the new machine once you get everything installed and working.  Enjoy!

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/13 13:09:48 (permalink)
    "tyacko"
    I'm not saying that the paid versions won't work.

    I know of many members here using EWQL products (including myself) and can confirm that it works very reliably. 





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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/15 07:46:55 (permalink)
    Ok people, back to my new DAW.

    I've got a problem getting both monitors to display.

    The 2 monitors are identical and only have a VGA input

    The old video card had a little adapter that converted the second output of the card to VGA

    The new video card is slightly different - there is one VGA output and a similar, but not identical output. I think it's DVI-D output.

    The difference is that the old one had a sort of a 'blade' surrounded by 4 small pins which mated perfectly with my adapter.

    The new card doesn't have any sockets for the 4 small pins, so I bought an adapter without the 4 pins.

    Result = no screen activity.

    Someone told me this won't work as the video card output is pure digital which needs a digital monitor to work correctly.

    So, it seems my options are to either get a new monitor, or pull the old video card out of the old computer and replace it in the new.

    Can anyone confirm if any of this is true?


    Thanks.



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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/15 07:55:57 (permalink)
    What is the exact model of the new video card you are running?  Also, if you can provide the make/model of your video monitors we may be able to assist.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/15 08:09:06 (permalink)
    Thanks for the swift response!

    I'm pretty sure the monitors are made by BenQ but they are getting on for 5 years old.

    Again, from memory, the card is an ATI Radeon HD5450


    I'm currently at work so I can't confirm any of this until I get home (6 hours)

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/15 12:41:32 (permalink)
    OK, if I'm following you (and based on the HD5450 website), could this adapter work?

    (DVI male to VGA female adapter)
    http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=cfis&gs_nf=1&cp=11&gs_id=16&xhr=t&q=dvi+to+vga+adapter&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=905&bih=428&wrapid=tljp1331829301402020&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7504742066661884170&sa=X&ei=OBpiT-C8F4Pf0QHIqdmECA&sqi=2&ved=0CJcBEPMCMAE#

    Or this one (DVI female to VGA male adapter)...
    http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=cfis&gs_nf=1&cp=11&gs_id=16&xhr=t&q=dvi+to+vga+adapter&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=905&bih=428&wrapid=tljp1331829301402020&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14516514385892618716&sa=X&ei=OBpiT-C8F4Pf0QHIqdmECA&sqi=2&ved=0CJ4BEPICMAI#

    It really depends on which cable you have.  If you have a VGA cable (which I think you do), then you want the one that opposite of the cable end.  Follow?

    I don't think you mentioned it, but did you verify that when you plug the other monitor in as the primary monitor it does work?  I wouldn't want to spend any money just in case that monitor may have failed.

    Good luck,
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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/16 20:14:40 (permalink)
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    The 2 monitors are identical and only have a VGA input
    VGA-only suggests that these monitors are the poorest quality.  Perhaps you should upgrade them.

    On the other hand, if you have no trouble reading SampleTank's GUI, then your monitors (and graphics card) are definitely ok.

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    Re:i7 2600K vs i7 3930K 2012/03/19 06:08:10 (permalink)
    I'd be banished to the shed if I suggested buying 2 new monitors after my recent expenditure

    It's definitely the card. The secondary port is only outputting DVI-D which is not supported by the monitor.

    I've spoken about this to the company that built the machine and they are sending out a different graphics card to me, hopefully today.

    I have temporarily used a card from my old desktop and both screens work perfectly.

    Thanks for your input on this subject lads.

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