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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/13 22:38:29
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It reminds me of Effectrix which is a great tool/toy!
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/13 23:16:37
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Sorry...I can't get past BT's haircut. It's as stupid as I used to wear mine back in the Plesticine Era. I have, and really like, Sonnox's Vocalizer and Native Instruments "The Finger" which allow me to do a ton of similar effects. I like having them in my arsenal. But I only occasionally have use for them. But anyone who makes this sort of...er...stuff on an ongoing basis would do well to have such tools. I guess.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/16 12:43:50
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I am really surprised to see Izotope come up with such a plug-in. It seem pretty simple to map and all. I guess it's a matter of sound quality against other plug-ins mentioned above (and I'm sure there are others). I thought it was cool. I am wondering about the effects' parameters. Unfortunately, they did not go in deep on the SOS video I watched maybe I should check the main site. I am curious about delay/echo effects. I am sure that would be very useful in an 'ever day' kind of way.
I'm gonna check it out now.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/17 00:33:53
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Seems very pricey for such a highly stylized audio effect. It would be the same if someone tried charging $250 for an autotuner effect that could only do T-Pain/Cher sounds. Eventually these effects will just sound dated.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/17 08:25:05
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/17 15:02:52
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anyone who makes this sort of...er...stuff 
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/18 20:41:47
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stutter edit is crazy good! i just received it a few days ago and even though i'm not knee deep in it as yet i'm very pleased with the capabilities and potential of this app.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/18 21:46:24
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stutter edit is crazy good! i just received it a few days ago and even though i'm not knee deep in it as yet i'm very pleased with the capabilities and potential of this app.
I've been checking out the demo. Very nice. I think "The Finger" is excellent too - and I even prefer it at the moment. Another really cool one (though slightly different) is Sugar Byte's Effectrix. Easy as pie too.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/18 21:47:28
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gustabo
It reminds me of Effectrix which is a great tool/toy!
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/18 23:21:51
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I had a wtf??? moment after sitting down at the iZotope booth, hoping maybe I'd get to see a Nectar demo. Then they start showing this silly stutter edit effect and describing it in superlatives you'd normally associate with something revolutionary.
Sure, you can modulate and gate in a variety of ways, but it was just one variation after another on the same theme. I could only take it for about 10 minutes and then moved along. I subsequently passed by the booth many times over the next three days, stopping to see if Nectar was up on the screen, but this stutter effect was what they'd chosen to seriously peddle at the show.
Maybe I'm just too disconnected from electronic genres, and Billy will no doubt refute this, but it seems to me this is just another way for somebody to plant one MIDI note on the PRV and call it a song.
As modulators and manglers go, far more interesting was the Sonnivox Vocalizer across the aisle. It stutters, too. Even cooler, there's the Roland VP7 - now that's a toy I could have fun with!
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/18 23:33:17
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i've noticed that in todays music climate, strange sounds , sweeps, swirls and edits are becoming commonplace. i remember toiling away on redundant edits just trying to do what this app does in seconds. and since playing with stutter edit it does a whole bunch of sound tweaking at once. sampling, filters, bit crunching, delays,etc all done without freaking out my modest setup. the finger looks very interesting and would be a great addition to my NI family. Effectrix looks cool too! Even with these effects it all boils down to how creative and intuitive you are with your productions to get something musical.
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ba_midi
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/18 23:46:56
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I had a wtf??? moment after sitting down at the iZotope booth, hoping maybe I'd get to see a Nectar demo. Then they start showing this silly stutter edit effect and describing it in superlatives you'd normally associate with something revolutionary.
Sure, you can modulate and gate in a variety of ways, but it was just one variation after another on the same theme. I could only take it for about 10 minutes and then moved along. I subsequently passed by the booth many times over the next three days, stopping to see if Nectar was up on the screen, but this stutter effect was what they'd chosen to seriously peddle at the show.
Maybe I'm just too disconnected from electronic genres, and Billy will no doubt refute this, but it seems to me this is just another way for somebody to plant one MIDI note on the PRV and call it a song.
As modulators and manglers go, far more interesting was the Sonnivox Vocalizer across the aisle. It stutters, too. Even cooler, there's the Roland VP7 - now that's a toy I could have fun with!
Dave, Gee, you're pulling the truth out of me now ... and the truth is, I was somewhat excited by Stutter Edit seeing the video. Then I got the demo and yawned. Most of the demo presets were not very appealing to me. The one or two that work nicely (for me) don't warrant 149 bucks in my opinion (and that's the 'deal' price). I was trying to be low key because in the past I had expressed my disappointment with some things on this forum and got the usual attacks and whatnots. A really useful plugin is Effectrix. Another is The Finger. There are more. So I'm not actually going to buy Stutter Edit (at least not yet). I have no doubt someone will like it more than I do, and some will use it well. But I'm not jumping on this one. I probably just should have said so from the get go -- but this forum, lately, makes one want to walk on eggs a bit ;)
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ba_midi
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/18 23:51:08
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letsmakeanalbum
i've noticed that in todays music climate, strange sounds , sweeps, swirls and edits are becoming commonplace. i remember toiling away on redundant edits just trying to do what this app does in seconds. and since playing with stutter edit it does a whole bunch of sound tweaking at once. sampling, filters, bit crunching, delays,etc all done without freaking out my modest setup. the finger looks very interesting and would be a great addition to my NI family. Effectrix looks cool too! Even with these effects it all boils down to how creative and intuitive you are with your productions to get something musical.
I think the key is, as you say, how creative one is. I love a lot of very modern stuff. Trance, eletronic, dance, etc -- and I also love classical, jazz, rock, R&B, you name it. But I do tend to listen to the more modern stuff more. And in the sphere of music available in these genres, there are definitely a lot of wannabes and wishtheycoulds. HOWEVER, there are some really creative music makers as well. And, yes, they use a lot of SFX (swooshes, sweeps, etc) but within the context of a very musical piece (as opposed to all tricks and no substance). Because so much music is now available so easily via the web and other outlets, it gets hard to find the good stuff because, as is usually the case, we get bombarded with a lot of 'stuff'. But these are just tools. Whether it be Stutter Edit, Effectrix, Wow, or any other plugin -- it really is all about who is using it and how.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/19 12:23:15
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Could it be we're just running out of ways to mangle sound? Electronic music has coasted all these years by giving us interesting new tonal textures, disguising the often simplistic machine-like musical components. But eventually, aren't you someday bound to run out of new sounds that still sound good?
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/19 12:39:27
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Could it be we're just running out of ways to mangle sound? Electronic music has coasted all these years by giving us interesting new tonal textures, disguising the often simplistic machine-like musical components. But eventually, aren't you someday bound to run out of new sounds that still sound good?
But if that happens, then we have to go back to just making some good music -- and what will the public think!?!?! 
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/19 12:45:07
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bitflipper
Could it be we're just running out of ways to mangle sound? Electronic music has coasted all these years by giving us interesting new tonal textures, disguising the often simplistic machine-like musical components. But eventually, aren't you someday bound to run out of new sounds that still sound good?
BTW, isn't that when the saying "Old is New" comes back? Look at fashion for example. When they run out of ideas, they just go back to old school and tweak it a bit. I think there really are many points in history where we've seen that happen to a great degree. But at least in music we still have the ability to touch each others' souls a bit when the music is good. If using sound enhancement doesn't take away from that part, things will be fine I'm sure.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/19 12:53:41
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Of course, we are also running out of ways to put 12 notes together, too. Just listen to the radio.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/19 13:31:30
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Of course, we are also running out of ways to put 12 notes together, too. Just listen to the radio.
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;-) They're using all 12??? Wow, coulda fooled me
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/20 10:56:59
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/25 00:33:00
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Hardware software greatly eclipsed in the classifieds and tech music NAMM show last week. But one of the software, which is generating a buzz among the producers can iZotope Stutter Edit.
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ba_midi
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/25 00:57:14
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Hardware software greatly eclipsed in the classifieds and tech music NAMM show last week. But one of the software, which is generating a buzz among the producers can iZotope Stutter Edit.
They're promoting it heavliy so I'm sure it's getting noticed. But - again - I must say, I played around with it even more yesterday, but still went back to The Finger. The Finger definitely has a much wider array of "different' effects already laid out, and it comes with a HUGE array of presets. I was seriously interested in Stutter Edit but now I decided I'm not going to go for it (I've been using the demo). I can do anything it does already with a number of plugins, especially the Finger, but also things like Effectrix. But I'm sure it will sell well, regardless.
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windsurfer25x
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/25 12:12:35
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I too started experimenting more with The Finger and have decided to not get Stutter Edit, The Finger is more than fine for these kinds of effects, and it's priced way more reasonably.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/26 19:27:04
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Wise move windsurfer, ol pal. I just watched BT hisownself demoing his software and was only mildly amused...by both his hucksterism and his haircut;-)
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/26 21:37:24
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yorolpal
Wise move windsurfer, ol pal. I just watched BT hisownself demoing his software and was only mildly amused...by both his hucksterism and his haircut;-)
BT's a pretty impressive guy - but in this case I just don't think he delivered. It's a bit complex in its interface (though that never stopped me), but it didn't have an "out of the box" win for me. I was doing a track with the finger the other day - just having fun. And boy fun it is - and musical.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/26 21:56:50
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it just reminds me of batch files in a sense.. they make life automated..
these effects could be done manually.. sure it would take a lot longer. but they haven't been around for 5 minutes.. much as the finger is a reaktor made / based instrument and glitch has been around for some time now.
as for finding them useful, sure why not .. experiment, much as I'm not supposed to run drums etc thru GR etc.
I do think it's harder to do something "new" fx wise.. but thats partly down to the price and technology now
look at obvious stuff like kate bush's old things what they did with tapes etc..
errm I like trying to figure out fx used on peoples records and de-constructing them though.
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ba_midi
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/01/27 00:01:38
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Some of these tools can be tremendously creative, depending how they're used.
I'm working on a new track tonight and using Glitch on this loop I like. It just adds a certain "umpph" to it and it works nicely.
If a tool can add to the track, great... but it really is up to the creative person/user to decide if it works or not.
They are fun tools though.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/02/22 14:00:17
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I cant get this working in sonar 7 for some reason i dont know. I configured it to work as a synth and inserted the synth in my project.Slapped some audio on it and tried to trigger thru midi. No sound. Some of the presets made some noise here and there but basically no sound. Any help is appreciated.
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ba_midi
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/02/22 14:16:17
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I cant get this working in sonar 7 for some reason i dont know. I configured it to work as a synth and inserted the synth in my project.Slapped some audio on it and tried to trigger thru midi. No sound. Some of the presets made some noise here and there but basically no sound. Any help is appreciated.
Not sure exactly how you did it - but here's the usual way to handle these types of plugins: 1- Scan your vsts as usual after installing the plugin 2- Open Sonar, go to TOOL->PluginManager 3- Configure the VST as "synth" by selecting it and choosing Plugin Properties button 4- Exit PluginManager 5- Right-click the FX Bin of an audio track you wish to effect, choose Insert Audio FX -> Insert Synth from there (NOT from the "Insert Synth Menu or Synth Rack!) 6 - Choose the plugin (stutter edit in this case) 7 - It should now show up in the FX BIN of the audio track 8 - Create a new MIDI track to hold the MIDI data that will trigger Stutter Edit 9 - Point the new MIDI track output to Stutter Edit and the Input to your keyboard or trigger device (pads, etc). 10 - Record the key-triggers onto this new MIDI track while playing back your track. If you've done the above, you should hear the effect as you play notes.
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Re:iZotope Stutter!
2011/02/25 00:57:51
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RishiS
I cant get this working in sonar 7 for some reason i dont know. I configured it to work as a synth and inserted the synth in my project.Slapped some audio on it and tried to trigger thru midi. No sound. Some of the presets made some noise here and there but basically no sound. Any help is appreciated.
Not sure exactly how you did it - but here's the usual way to handle these types of plugins:
1- Scan your vsts as usual after installing the plugin
2- Open Sonar, go to TOOL->PluginManager
3- Configure the VST as "synth" by selecting it and choosing Plugin Properties button
4- Exit PluginManager
5- Right-click the FX Bin of an audio track you wish to effect, choose Insert Audio FX -> Insert Synth from there (NOT from the "Insert Synth Menu or Synth Rack!)
6 - Choose the plugin (stutter edit in this case)
7 - It should now show up in the FX BIN of the audio track
8 - Create a new MIDI track to hold the MIDI data that will trigger Stutter Edit
9 - Point the new MIDI track output to Stutter Edit and the Input to your keyboard or trigger device (pads, etc).
10 - Record the key-triggers onto this new MIDI track while playing back your track.
If you've done the above, you should hear the effect as you play notes.
I did the Configuration (as noted in item 3)
Did the step 5 & 6 & 7 (Audio FX on the Audio - Shows in Audio BIN)
Step 9 - NOT WORKING - StutterEdit NEVER shows up for me as a SYNTH Plugin on the MIDI Track - not even as an INSTRUMENT to insert even when it is configured to be a "Synth" which is the way the Evo Harmonizer plugs into for Antares - and that works.
This plug in seems to not ever show up for me.
I have Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit (Dual Core with 8GB Ram) - I reported this to IZOTOPE as a bug (TWICE) - and have not heard back.
I am expecting to see StutterEdit in the List of INSTRUMENTS to select from - on the MIDI track. But no luck.
I tried getting this to work with Sonar 8.5 and same issue. - Maybe I am missing something here? - has to be a subtle difference, or a machine confict?
Any thoughts?
= Mark Mitchell =
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