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iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
Ozone 8, Neutron 2 . . . No, I'm not in software sales . . . just a mere appreciator of innovative software. New shiny things that really make a difference in the world of audio. It seems to me that iZotope have really tapped into something that stands out from the normal, the next thing we've all been looking for. I've only been using it a few weeks, but it's simply proved to be a faster more efficient way to a properly mastered track than I've ever seen . . . at least for those of us who are not mastering pros, and fortunate enough to have a super tuned listening environment.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/24 05:42:50
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Yes excellent stuff for sure, still just scratching the surface, but a lot of very useful stuff.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/24 14:32:52
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+1, the Visual Mixer has been my favorite so far. Looking at the different versions, they enabled a lot of the new features in even the Elements additions (both O8 and N2). The Mix Tap plugin is only available in N2A, but not sure if the light weight is that important compared to simply inserting N2, but it may be with rising track count.
I still cannot get excited for the Tonal Balance Control, but must not be diving into it properly.
If iZotope would release a light-weight DAW, I would be a happy camper (Spire may be the start of seeing this happen).
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/24 16:29:30
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I got Ozone 8 Advanced. The Tonal Balance plugin is awesome as is the Mix Assistant. Great learning tools!
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/29 19:05:14
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Hi there, just got an additional 10% off at time and space, code OCT10KRVV
That meant my "Australian" price was a little over £116 quid". I may not be allowed in the Australian parliament as a dual citizen, but I do get their tax rebates :)
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/30 03:31:31
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OCT10KRVV didn't work for me. Maybe it was a personal code?
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/30 10:57:25
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reginaldStjohn
OCT10KRVV didn't work for me. Maybe it was a personal code?
Most likely. I got a 10% code just for asking on their Facebook page...
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/30 11:00:34
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could be, but the email didn't suggest it was a personal code. Sorry for getting your hopes up.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 11:46:11
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I must admit I am impressed with this. The tonal balance control didn't rock my world until I saw that you could import a whole set of tracks to use as a reference and save it as a preset. I can see myself adding the mix tap into a track template to utilise the visual mixer especially for orchestral and vocal work.
Couldn't work out why the silence on Insight, perhaps they are looking to release an enhancement to this.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 12:00:00
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I have O7 Advanced and it's fantastic for both mixing/mastering. Besides Tonal Balance and Mix Assistant, would there be any other compelling reason to upgrade?
Would love to hear from you guys that upgraded from O7A to O8A....
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 14:22:59
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Resistance down, Audiodeluxe had it for me at $168 bucks. Sold....
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 14:24:01
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I watched Izotope's 22 minute video tutorial on using the Tonal Balance Control w/ Ozone 8, etc. and it impressed me greatly. This was part of my decision, plus the upgrade price fell into an affordable (O)zone for me.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 14:58:47
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/10/31 16:41:49
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I have O7 Advanced and it's fantastic for both mixing/mastering. Besides Tonal Balance and Mix Assistant, would there be any other compelling reason to upgrade?
Would love to hear from you guys that upgraded from O7A to O8A....
Hi Mesh, not used it in anger yet. to be honest if you were just doing the O7A to O8A upgrade then there are a few little niceties if you use reference tracks to compare and there is a new low latency IRC and a new spectral shaper plugin (the others are updated to include a 7.5ips tape emulation on top of the current 15 and 30) The master assistant is OK for getting a starting point (probably won't use it much as I have a fairly set way of working with Ozone) some other niceties for the metering but if you have bx meter you could just use that. Tonal balance to my mind is just another take on reference matching but useful. Neutron 2 Advanced is probably the most exciting thing out of the two.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 15:23:25
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I Posted this on another site and thought I might share it here as well.
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I have to admit I'm a sucker for plugins that claim to do very cool things for your mix. But, beware, and use your ears.
Pop sort of alluded to this in an early thread. Most of us have been dabbling in mixing music for a long time. Either in your recordings or maybe even mixing a live band. Over the years you would hope that we have developed some mix chops.
So, I bought Izotope's channel mix plugin Neutron 2. It is actually a pretty cool plugin that includes a feature that will analyze a specific track and set the eq, comp, gain etc. I applied it to one of my guitar lead tracks about a month ago and, at the time, thought it did a pretty good job.
Fast forward to last night. I was about to record another lead and I was searching my Kemper profiles for just the right sound. I picked one of my favorites and tweaked to "perfection." I then recorded a short piece of lead after which I added Neutron 2 to that channel and let it work it's magic. The thing is, after an hour of setting different Neutron 2 options, I couldn't find any setting that made the track sound "better." Then I went back to the earlier lead and switched Neutron 2 off and realized the track sounded better without it.
Here's the thing, I have spent countless hours tone chasing for the perfect guitar tones over the years and have settled in on what I like. Why on earth would I now apply a plugin that would analyze my "perfect" tone and modify it to someone else's idea of what that tone should be.
Neutron 2 maybe just the ticket for instruments that are not recorded very well in the first place or instruments that you have not spent a great deal of time tweaking over the years, but I doubt it will make an instrument that you have spent your whole life perfecting sound "better."
As pop stated...use your ears!
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/10/31 16:39:50
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I have O7 Advanced and it's fantastic for both mixing/mastering. Besides Tonal Balance and Mix Assistant, would there be any other compelling reason to upgrade?
Would love to hear from you guys that upgraded from O7A to O8A....
I recommend setting aside time to dedicate to the demo. The Mastering Assistant is nice, but you also need to see its limitations to understand it (it uses a defined chain each time and overwrites anything you already have in place unless I missed a way to use it otherwise). The visual mixer (N2) is nice since it includes a plugin to tap into any track's fader, pan, etc. That allows for very quick placement of tracks both visually and acoustically and removes a lot of the overhead of playing with faders, pan pots, etc. on the console. Best way to get use of the demo is look at the new features and try them out on mixes you have done (prep a fairly complex one by saving as a new project and stripping the plugins from it, then redo with O8N2). Other's opinions are good, but the one that matters has to be your own.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 16:44:37
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Thanks guys.....will definitely demo it first.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 18:24:54
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I was thinking of getting Ozone 8 anyway so the current deals available on the N2O8 bundle proved a no brainer.
Early days but I'm really liking Neutron2 especially the eq masking feature.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 19:22:40
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todays the last day for the special upgrade prices, I am on the fence for the crossgrade from my music production bundle to the new one for $199, I guess I better pull the trigger or get of the pot
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 21:07:12
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I made the leap to O8A. That's all I could afford (really can't afford that)
and it's a worthy upgrade. The EQ's in O8A work and interact with the
"Tone Shaper" the same way Neutron 2 does, so that's a bonus.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/10/31 22:29:31
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by the way is it just me or does the setting to hide related VST2 plugins not work with Izotope?
I have two of everything in the plugin list and have had to manually exclude.
Unfortunately the Izotope installation doesn't offer the choice as to what version to install
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/01 00:42:49
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I'm a sucker for these magical wand plugins. Ahhhh, so difficult to resist. Still, resist I will. Until both upgrades dive under a c-note. Together. Not paying more than that for my O8N2 Advanced crossgrade.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/01 02:36:55
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Well, now I've been using Ozone 8 and Neutron 2 a lot and have discovered I don't much care for the Track Assistant in Neutron 2. Sure it works, but doesn't always get close to the desired result in my tracks. The Mastering Assistant is brilliant in that it saves time trying to get to a Mastering position, which can be tweaked after that . . . but with the Track Assistant I'm constantly trying to put back the low mids which get sucked away by the darn robot. I'm starting to wonder if robot ears don't like low mids, maybe it's just a human thing.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/01 02:46:54
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I for one love low mids. Or so she says.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/01 19:07:57
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I’ve been working with N2 a bit more and I have moderated my opinion a bit. I still don’t think Track Assistant is very useful for my lead guitar tracks, but, it has been useful on my clean guitar rhythm tracks and acoustic guitar tracks.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/01 21:57:53
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I have had a play with tonal balance control by creating my own balances from my favourite reference albums.
The supplied ones are quite close to some of the ones I generated. PM me if you want copies as they are just Json files.
It may be interesting for solo instruments whether you could pick a sample of a sound you like as say a wav file and use it to create a tonal balance graph that you could then match to your own sound such as say a guitar. I don't know how long the sample would need to be to get a decent graph, but may be worth a shot.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/02 12:44:46
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2017/11/02 16:02:31
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I'm a sucker for these magical wand plugins. Ahhhh, so difficult to resist. Still, resist I will. Until both upgrades dive under a c-note. Together. Not paying more than that for my O8N2 Advanced crossgrade.
This is the same position I find myself in today. Have been reading about the new features but not ready to throw down $200 on it. So I will wait till the sales. After Christmas, Spring, Summer, or next BF!!
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/02 15:17:02
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I only have Neutron Elements, and the feature that I really like is the EQ learn button, that will analyze the audio and place nodes on areas of interest. I know you can do this by sweeping the frequency, but this is a great time saver. Unlike track assistant it won't make any cuts, or gains.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/11/05 13:37:11
I absolutely love Ozone 8 Adv. I wished this was made 5 years ago so that I don't have to buy so many plugins for mastering. The master assistance in itself can master music better than myself. On top of that tonal balance control, learn threshold, spectra shaper are life saver and total game changer for me. Also love the vintage tape and vintage compressor. Definitely product of the year 2017 for me. It is almost like cheating. 
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/05 15:20:16
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iZotope has a number of different products on sale every 2 weeks through Christmas. Hopefully when Ozone 8 Advance comes up it's a worthy discount. I was offered a great price on upgrade from Neutron to Neutron 2 Advance so all I need is O8 Adv.
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Re: iZotope sets a new bar with Ozone 8 and Neutron 2
2017/11/05 15:25:12
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