ry1633
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importing MIDI files from Finale
Hey all, I'm working on another project where I'd like to score some string parts in Finale and import them into X1? If I create the Finale files with the right tempo that matches the X1 project, then I assume I will be fine? Anything I need to be aware of with the grid or tempo settings? -ryan
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daveny5
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/03/30 07:20:24
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The tempo doesn't matter. You'll be exporting a MIDI file from Finale and when you import it into Sonar, it will follow the project tempo. I'm assuming your MIDI tracks are in meter.
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ry1633
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/03/30 13:04:53
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yeah I intended on making the files in Finale as the same tempo as the Sonar project, so I'm hoping I can just drop them in at the appropriate marker and it will work. On a related question... can I draw in a fade in or at least smooth out the initial attack so it doesn't sound so mechanical when the string MIDI parts come in? -ryan
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ry1633
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/17 13:44:34
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sorry to revive this.... I've got them MIDI files imported successfully, but there is no sound when they play. Nothing is muted and the other tracks play just fine, not the MIDI ones. I assume I have a signal flow or synth issue within Sonar?
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/17 13:48:33
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What soft synth are you using?
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ry1633
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/17 15:18:42
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when I import the MIDI tracks - the input strip and console view both show Session Drummer or some variant of Drum Loop. And I can't change them to anything else. The MIDI files were string/orchestra files created in Finale.
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daveny5
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/17 21:42:12
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You don't need to import MIDI files, File-Open should do it or drag and drop.
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/18 11:36:44
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Hi, one good way to check if the midi notes are correct after import is to check them from within the EVENT INSPECTOR.
many times, importing midi files from external sources will result in additional control data, patch data and others.
using the event inspector, you may use the FILTER to check off any irrelevant data and then deleting them off. this will give you a very clean slate within Sonar. you may then add any other midi cc from within Sonar.
to get the midi data to play thru your instrument, just add your instrument and assign the I/Os on the TRACK PANE correctly.
hope this helps...
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/18 12:27:38
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If you have not started yet, I would:
Export a single midi track from Sonar.
Open it in Finale and do the work you want.
Export from Finale and import it into Sonar.
When I work in Finale, I get the project the way I want there and export it as a midi file. I then put the midi file in the folder where Sonar keeps it's projects. I usually put it in it's own project folder. I then right click on the midi file and select "open with" and direct it to Sonar. I do this so all the settings for the song such as tempo, key, etc are there and I don't have to recreate all that stuff. If I have to go back and add to it after I've done all the Sonar work, I'll just add it to the original Finale file and then import it. I've not had to go back and do this so I don't know if Finale can export individual parts or not. LOL! I've been using Finale since 3.51 and I don't know that. lol!
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ry1633
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/20 15:49:50
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I got it working. I just had to point it to the correct MIDI synth (using the Microsoft or SONAR ones) Edit --> Preferences --> MIDI Question, is there any way I can get SONAR to recognize and use the Finale (Garritan) MIDI instruments? Those are way better, quality wise. -R
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/20 15:58:59
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If they are VST or ?? plug ins Sonar can use them. You'll have to copy the dll to your shared plug in folder or have Sonar browse to the folder which will probably be in your Programs/Finale/plug ins folder.
Have you tried all the Sonar synths yet?
The TTS-1 is probably the easiest to start with.
NEVER use the MS wavetable.. terrible.
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/21 01:43:46
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ry1633
I got it working. I just had to point it to the correct MIDI synth (using the Microsoft or SONAR ones) Edit --> Preferences --> MIDI Question, is there any way I can get SONAR to recognize and use the Finale (Garritan) MIDI instruments? Those are way better, quality wise. -R
Put a copy of Garritan's ARIA player your VST plugins folder, scan for it, and then load it like any other plugin. I haven't really tested it thoroughly, but do know it will play.
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ry1633
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Re:importing MIDI files from Finale
2013/04/21 19:56:30
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I'll try those out, and see if I can get some better sounds. Will check back if I have problems.
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