input ONLY monitoring Sonar 7 studio or Sonar X1 Producer
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input ONLY monitoring Sonar 7 studio or Sonar X1 Producer - 12 hrs. ago (
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Currently on Sonar 7 studio but about to upgrade to X1 Producer.
On either of these versions does anyone know how to do the following.
Listen to the input signal only during playback on a track where some audio has already been recorded.
It seems that when in playback and I enable the input monitor I hear both the input and recorded audio signal together.
(This would be like a traditional multitrack 'Line-in' situation)
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Reply to message Message Options Re:input ONLY monitoring Sonar 7 studio or Sonar X1 Producer - 11 hrs. ago (
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What kind of audio interface are you using? Even a half decent Audio Interface should feature input monitoring.
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Reply to message Message Options Re:input ONLY monitoring Sonar 7 studio or Sonar X1 Producer - 11 hrs. ago (
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I use a Behringer F-Control FCA202 firewire interface that I accept is a low end unit. However I am about to upgrade to a Focusrite loiquid saffire 65.
Just to be sure, I can hear my input signal by depressing the input monitoring switch in the trackview window. The problem is that when in playback, sometimes it would be good if I could be hearing just my input signal when the input monitoring is on and not the recorded audio that is already on the track at the same time.
Is it your view that a better soundcard would eliminate the problem I have??
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Reply to message Message Options Re:input ONLY monitoring Sonar 7 studio or Sonar X1 Producer - 4 hrs. ago (
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What you're talking about is implemented in SONAR as track layers, basically multiple clips stacked onto a single track. It's most often used for recording multiple takes of a part, like playing a part over and over until you get it right, or making multiple passes so you can pick and choose the best bits from each (called "comping"). Each layer can be independently muted or soloed, or, in loop recording mode, automatically silenced before each new take. Search on "track layers" in the SONAR 7 help file to get the scoop.
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Reply to message Message Options Re:input ONLY monitoring Sonar 7 studio or Sonar X1 Producer - 3 hrs. ago (
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Or the default ( I think this is stupid) is to record Sound on Sound which results in new takes not erasing the old takes. Change this to Overwrite in Transport / Record options. As far as input monitoring. Make sure the interface you buy has good controls on the front. There should be a blend knob that balances between Computer(Playback) and Input. Then a Monitor Level control and a Headphone level control. These give you flexible monitoring of both your playback and what your recording. Look up the Round trip Latency of the interface as the lower this is the better if your planing using real time EFX.
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Reply to message Message Options Re:input ONLY monitoring Sonar 7 studio or Sonar X1 Producer - 36 mins. ago(
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Thanks for the help guys.............the problem I have is that I'm a bit old school, having been working in studios and producing records in the UK for more than 25 years.
My current set up is based around 2x24tk Mackie Hard disc recorders, which in the main, work in the same way to the traditional 2" tape analogue multitracks I used previously. So when recording you have the following 2 types of input options.
#1. Auto-input. Once the track has been armed (record ready) The input signal is heard when transport is stopped. In playback you will hear what has previously been recorded and when you punch into record whilst rolling you will again hear the input signal. This is similar to checking the dialogue box 'disable input monitoring during playback' in the Sonar preferences.
#2. Line-In monitoring when track is armed. This option on traditional multitracks means that you will hear the input signal only, whether in playback, record and when stopped. Where this has always been useful, is for instance, if you are laying down a guitar and are happy with what you've put down in the verses but want to come up with something different for the choruses, switching to 'Line-In' monitoring enables you to rehearse/work out the chorus guitar part, without the need to hit record (as you can't hear the previously recorded material) and when you're ready you can just punch in/out of the track to lay down the chorus. This saves you the hassle of having to comp layers together afterwards. It also helps when recording vocalists, as when looking to punch in you can start playback in 'auto-input' mode so the vocalist can identify where play is started. Once the vocalist starts singing along you can switch to 'line-in' input so the vocalist can 'tune-in' so when you eventually hit record the vocalist is in his/her stride. (I'm not sure if you record on a different layeryou will be able to let the vocalist hear some of there previous recording as it will be on a different layer. Any advice here is welcome)
Although I have used Sonar for some time it has mainly been for midi sequencing, but as time has gone by I have been using more soft synths and virtual instruments in sonar. This has made me realise that there is so much more flexibility working just within sonar so I am looking to throw out my hard disc recorders and upgrade my DAW. So I am currently exploring the audio recording side of sonar.
So what I would really like to know is if I can replicate #2 above in Sonar X1 Producer. I have a feeling that the answer may be what Cactus Music may be saying in regards to the soundcard, but if anyone knows how to do this within Sonar it would be extremely helpful.
Sorry if this message is a bit long winded