is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation???

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2011/08/05 15:54:04 (permalink)

is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation???

Hi Guys,
Just want to free myself from keyboard workstations and switch finally to computer DAW
having still some hardware control interface and was thinking about getting studiologic vmk
keyboard and V-Studio 100. What do you think? will that replace my 16 track midi sequencer 
on my yamaha motif XS? I need this for home and small band recording so these 8 tracks in
recorder on VS 100 would be enough. Am I right?
thanks


P.S.    
does V-Studio 100 and software bundle work with macbook pro?
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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/05 17:27:39 (permalink)
    The VS-100 is not a multitrack stand alone recorder! It does 2 Tracks (stereo from the mains out), and then you can layer those tracks. I would love it if the stand alone section could do separate tracks - but unfortunately it won't!  
     
    Interfaced with a computer and a DAW - that's a different story and the VS-100 truly shines!
     
    EDIT: The V-Studio has MAC Drivers, but Sonar VS (the DAW software) does not run on a MAC. No version of Sonar runs natively on a MAC. (it can be done with Bootcamp and a copy of Windows installed on the MAC)
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    Don't fix it in the mix ... Fix it in the take! 
     

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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/05 20:31:42 (permalink)
    thanks, 
    I know it's not really standalone multitrack recorder but it has 8 inputs which can be written to stereo output on SD card so not that bad, right? BTW can I bring this mix to the cakewalk and work with it later on computer?

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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/06 08:44:21 (permalink)
    Sure, you can mix all 8 tracks to a stereo mix which is what gets recorded to the SD card. Keep in mind inputs 7/8 are digital inputs not analog. You can't use them unless you have a device that has digital out (mixer, amp simulator, mic preamp, etc...)

    The tracks can certainly be brought into Cakewalk/Sonar (or any DAW), and it does sound great!

    The SD Recorder does sound on sound, but with a bit of a twist. I'll try to explain.

    1: Record a track
    2: Listen to track 1 while recording a new track
    3: If you listen to the track you recorded in step two, you will hear both track 1 and 2 which is proper sound on sound. BUT  - if you import the tracks into Sonar, you will realize the parts are 100% separate. If track 1 is a guitar and track 2 is a voice - you will have full separation and mixing capabilities once the parts are brought into Sonar (or any DAW). You just can't mix them from the VS-100 alone.
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    Don't fix it in the mix ... Fix it in the take! 
     

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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/06 09:02:19 (permalink)
    codamedia


    Sure, you can mix all 8 tracks to a stereo mix which is what gets recorded to the SD card. Keep in mind inputs 7/8 are digital inputs not analog. You can't use them unless you have a device that has digital out (mixer, amp simulator, mic preamp, etc...)

    The tracks can certainly be brought into Cakewalk/Sonar (or any DAW), and it does sound great!

    But if I mix e.g. 6 tracks to stereo tracks on SD card and bring them into Sonar will I get those 6 track separated or not, just a 2 stereo tracks to work with? That part I'm not sure about.

    post edited by kc2ine - 2011/08/06 09:20:01
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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/07 19:41:10 (permalink)
    Sorry for the delay.

    No - it will just be a stereo track! The only thing that gets recorded on the SD is the output from the main mix. The Main Mix is just Left/Right (stereo).

    I really wish this could do a true multi-track recording (8 tracks or even 6 tracks) to the SD card myself, but it doesn't!


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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/08 10:57:55 (permalink)
    Thanks Codamedia,
    so the only way to get multitrack from this device is using it with computer.
    That's disappointing a little bit providing the price we pay for it. I am seriously considering
    getting boss BR-1600Cd instead...
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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/08 15:20:30 (permalink)
    In fairness - the two products (VS-100 and BR-1600) are completely different devices.
    One will not do what the other one specializes in.

    I will agree the BR is likely a better choice for you judging on what you have said in this thread, but that does not make the VS-100 less of a product. It is a very specialized device, and worth every cent - IMO

    Don't fix it in the mix ... Fix it in the take! 
     

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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/09 01:28:06 (permalink)
    sorry it were temporary second thoughts, BR-1600CD is too old anyway to invest in it plus I really want hardware/software combination as V-Studio offers. But is the V Studio still supported? I read somewhere
    that no more bug fixes etc...
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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/09 10:59:40 (permalink)
    As far as I know the VS series is still supported.

    The latest drivers and firmware just came out earlier this year, and I dont know of any bugs that are outstanding. (there are little annoyances like not being able to route internally, but that's a feature, not a bug)

    In regards to drivers, the new QuadPre and Octa Pre use the same driver family, so with newer compatable products coming out I suspect the VS will still be supported for a while yet!

    Don't fix it in the mix ... Fix it in the take! 
     

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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/09 16:25:24 (permalink)
    Thanks, I placed the order today and will give it  try.
    How about that bug razor is talking about in a thread "don't buy V-Studio yet" :)
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    Re:is V-Studio 100 any good for replacing workstation??? 2011/08/10 16:11:51 (permalink)
    Good point! I don't use the VS-100 in the same way so it doesn't affect me at all. In fairness, that doesn't mean the problem does not exist.  Whether or not it is a bug or just a missing feature could be argued. I think the wave recorder could use some improvements, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work well.

    Don't fix it in the mix ... Fix it in the take! 
     

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