joey90405
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latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
   i believe you can see these 3 screenshots by right clicking them, if not please let me know. here's the problem, no matter how i configure sonar i can not get it to run smoothly. the biggest issue is superior drummer misses beats and when i try to add any plugins the entire song gets choppy. i'm sending a copy of this to toontrack as well. i'm at a loss, ever since i downloaded the last sonar updates everything has been running like crap. i have rolled back sonar to 2017. 05. (23. 6. 0. 24) however, it changed nothing. i'm thinking about reinstalling the latest updates again to see if that helps. the photos i attached are the settings with both ASIO4ALL and quad-capture. doesn't matter which one i use i have the same results. i gotta tell ya, i'm at a loss. i spend all my time trying to get things to work so i don't play any music. it's awful. i appreciate anyone's ideas and time.
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Zargg
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/24 19:36:18
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Hi. Regarding missing notes in SD. Try increasing the "prepare using ... ms" in Preferences to 500 (or even more)
All the best.
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joey90405
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/24 19:57:01
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i'm sorry, i don't know what that means. i looked in preferences but found nothing like "ms"
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/24 20:08:59
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Latency is delay between each device on your computer. The reason millseconds/microseconds are used is because this is how things are calculated in the digital world. A low latency ASIO sound driver can be used to "speak directly" to your sound interface, rather than go through the Windows Audio Subsystem firstly. Essentially it means a faster response time between what gets put in and what comes out.
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/24 20:15:33
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Samples are used for ease.
This should be displayed under sound device in Preferences.
23ms is 1024 samples at 44.1Khz/16-bit. Add on time for input and output. Which approximates it to be about 50-60ms overall.
samples/sample rate = delay time
P.S. You may want to get yourself a dedicated sound interface.
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Zargg
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/24 20:16:32
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joey90405
i'm sorry, i don't know what that means. i looked in preferences but found nothing like "ms"
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/24 20:18:40
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/24 21:03:05
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There are settings in SuperiorDrummer as well, whether to preload in memory or no.
When I load the lot of Avatar drumset, with all bleed stuff it takes 1.5 GB.
With 16 GB ram you can do that.
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joey90405
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/25 15:28:08
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thanks so much for your replies. i do have a dedicated sound card, it's a Roland quad-capture.
the problem is nothing seems to be working like it used to.
i'm wondering if there is something i can or should do to make my computer run better. i never have the anti virus running while recording, i have all the windows sounds disabled. as far as i know, that's all i need to do.
i'm at the end of my tether with this.
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/25 15:53:44
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I wouldn't be running any TSR (Terminate and Stay Resident) program like antivirus especially if no network is present when you are recording. Why are using ASIO4All and not one of these? https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/quad-capture/updates_drivers/ Anyway had a quick look through the manual. What are your recording settings and ASIO buffer settings. Mine is set to 23ms (1024 samples) at 44.1Khz/16-bit. Edited for clarity.
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/25 16:59:53
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Why are using ASIO4All and not one of these?
Im guessing frustration set in and he was trying to use a process of elimination method (see if ASIO4ALL worked). Then he would know its a hardware/driver issue and not connectivity. For what its worth, I sent a private email to the OP a week ago. I figured he had solved the issue since I received no reply.
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/25 19:33:23
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To the usual "ASIO4ALL can kill your audio system" (in which I have refused to believe till I had it, and no, uninstalling ASIO4ALL has not restored that, fortunately major Windows update does...), MS has recently added "disable Gaming more". If OP signature is still valid, the second is not an issue. But if updates are not disabled, it is 
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joey90405
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/25 19:37:39
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ok, i'm going to try that. i'm wondering if my interface might not be working with the new windows update? it's a Roland quad-capture that is USB 2.0 and my computer is 3.0. the computer people tell me it's backward compatible but i don't believe them. i've updated the interface drivers but nothing is working. it's mostly the drums (superior drummer) i've never had any problems before. i don't know man, i'm sick of it.
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/25 23:33:05
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I'm wondering whether I connected into USB 3 or 2 now. I will check tomorrow.
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/26 08:37:18
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I wouldn't be running any TSR (Terminate and Stay Resident) program like antivirus especially if no network is present when you are recording. Why are using ASIO4All and not one of these?
https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/quad-capture/updates_drivers/
Anyway had a quick look through the manual. What are your recording settings and ASIO buffer settings. Mine is set to 23ms (1024 samples) at 44.1Khz/16-bit. However normally record into it at 24-bit which gives 50% less latency.
I'm pretty sure word length/bit depth has no effect on latency, or at least it would be the first interface I've heard of where it does.
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Re: latency? bad set-up? bad computer?
2017/07/26 09:20:11
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None that can be noticeably perceived probably. Also I record at 24-bit because it gives me more dynamic room not because of the less theoretical latency produced in the audio roundtrip . I believe the adage "less is more" sums up what I'm trying to say.
Previous to the Focusrite USB, I used the EMU 1212M soundcard which never had any hiccups as such; apart from the fixed sample rate and manual switching you had to do. I sometimes put information in my posts that are just to cover all angles not essentially as part as my answer.
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