lining up exported files

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2012/03/28 12:27:30 (permalink)

lining up exported files

im trying to export files when they get received they don't line up. the person i'm sending them to is using pro tools, should that make a difference? i could be doing something wrong can someone tell me HOW they export files, this is the first time i've done this 
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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/28 14:00:22 (permalink)
    Could you describe your process in more detail? Are you adding tracks to a song someone else started, or are you sending tracks from a song you created entirely yourself? 

    The DAW shouldn't matter. For collaborations it's best to always export from 00:00, so that there's never any ambiguity about where the track starts. I've participated in a project in which six people contributed files from four different DAWs, all mixed on Pro Tools.


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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/28 16:03:22 (permalink)
    What I do is every track will start with a ( click) count in. I leave measure 1 blank and put it in measure 2. Recording starts on 3 or 4.
    Usually I Email a stereo MP3 track to have a percusionist add his parts to. When he records his part he taps along with the count in. He then sends me just the takes he recorded, as WAVE's I don't need the stereo track back. Seems to always line up spot on.
    For multi track export it's a little bit more work to add the click after the fact but it can be done. Then the guy with pro tools ( or whatever) just lines them up.
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2012/03/28 16:06:37

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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/28 20:28:12 (permalink)
    make sure you have the same settings, bmp, sample rate and bit rate.. that can make a difference. Best to always start at zero. If you did not do that when recording, just bounce to track and the new wav form will start at zero

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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/29 11:29:33 (permalink)
    The problem with starting at zero is that there are very few tracks were the music starts at zero. The count of ONE is not at zero. Some parts don't come in until later in the song. When you export one track at a time, this short space will be automatically edited out leaving each track starting in a different place in time. By placing a transient(s) in the same place in each track you now have a reference to the clock at the same point of every track. Leaving a few measures blank gives you room to work. Arm every track and record the transient(s) in one quick smack of the keyboard. Use snap to grid 1/4 notes.
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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/29 13:46:44 (permalink)
    Shouldn't exporting as Broadcast Wav be the solution??
    BCWavs include a time stamp that positions the clip correctly, doesn't it? I haven't tried it myself, that's why the question marks.

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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/29 16:14:00 (permalink)
    You might be right, I have never figured what that Broadcast Wave  was, makes logical sence don't it now :)  T

    The other day I opened a Cakewalk audio folder and dragged and droped all the Audio tracks into Cubase. They were all good to go. But they were from a live multi track recording so there is ambient noise right from the start.

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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/29 16:52:16 (permalink)
    i'm doing something fundamentally wrong when i start/save the project. when i find the files and import them to a blank project their all over the place and some are missing. i just heard from the cat i'm sending them to, he said 4 out of 12 line up thats all. i'm at a loss.  
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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/29 18:35:56 (permalink)
    So....are you exporting as Broadcast wavs? What software is your friend using? Does that software have a setting to make sure BCwavs are imported at timestamp?

    You need to be organized and tell us what you're doing, otherwise we won't get anywhere trying to give you advice.

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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/29 20:41:13 (permalink)
    hi, this is what i know so far, also i'm new to this forum. when i send broadcast wav. it arrives just as a stereo mix, not separate tracks, when i send wav. files to myself to sonar they are not lined up also, (this i don't understand at all) when i save the project, locate the file there are not only the project tracks but MORE takes of the saved tracks. what i mean is say there are 12 tracks that i want to save, when i locate the file there are all the previous takes as well also little clips with nothing on them at all. you see i've never collaborated over the internet i've just recorded, mixed then burned CD's or save the project as a bundle .bun file. i hope i explained this well. thank you  
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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/03/30 12:41:16 (permalink)
    You can't use the actual project files, as they have no internal information as to where they start. That information is all contained within the .cwp file, and without it the audio files themselves are almost useless.

    What you have to do is export your project to a new series of wave files, which can be standard waves or broadcast waves. In your case, you'll then end up with 12 separate files.

    First make sure nothing is selected on the timeline. The easiest way to do that is to rewind to the beginning of the song and press F9 and then F10.

    Go to File -> Export -> Audio. Under the "Source Category" choose "Tracks". Select the specific tracks unless you want all of them. If you want to send them dry without any bus effects, un-check the "Bus FX" checkbox. 

    Find out in advance what format they want the files to be in. Probably the most universal format would be 24 bits. Stay at the original sample rate unless the person you're sending them to specifically requests a different rate.




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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/04/01 17:59:43 (permalink)
    All you need to do is export each file form the same timeline. It works like a charm

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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/04/01 18:08:39 (permalink)
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    im trying to export files when they get received they don't line up. the person i'm sending them to is using pro tools, should that make a difference? i could be doing something wrong can someone tell me HOW they export files, this is the first time i've done this 

    If you are exporting individual tracks, where do the clips start? At the beginning of the song or where the audio starts? I get my best results when I slip edit the beginning of a clip to the beginning of the song. That way all the tracks' audio lines up in relation to the beginning of the song.
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    Re:lining up exported files 2012/04/01 20:09:24 (permalink)
    I see what you are doing fundamentally wrong. Your trying to use the Raw wave files in your audio folder. This will only work if all those tracks were recorded in one pass as a live recording like I mention above.Once you start doing overdubs and punch ins there will be all sorts of files in there. Only the CWP file can keep track of where they go.DOn;t use Bundle if anything use OMF. Other wise do as everyone here has said. Highlight track 1 and export it as broadcast wave. Highlight track 2 and export as broadcast wave and so on. You will have 12 files. If broadcast wave does not line up automatically in Pro Tools I'd be amazed.
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2012/04/01 20:11:24

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