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2014/12/25 16:59:15
Karyn
Restored it Steve, I'm guessing it's because it's a lottery link that the spam filter is catching it.
2014/12/25 17:05:15
Karyn
Wow, I had a search through the trash and found 64 copies of the same post grabbed by Akismet.
 
Steve, the spam filter seems to really have it in for you today. Is there anything specific you want restoring?
2014/12/25 17:13:21
Beepster
In other news... the embedded youtube link in your signature has been making any thread you post in take an annoyingly long time to load, especially if you've posted mulitple times like in this thread.
 
:-/
2014/12/25 17:25:16
robert_e_bone
I remember a Monty Python sketch where you couldn't get anything without Spam, then the Vikings started singing a song about Spam.
 
I don't know why it has you in its spam sights - your signature has had that link for at least a few days now, that I can recall.
 
I restored another thread of yours a couple minutes ago, and will try to pay attention to things for a little bit, to see what is happening to you.
 
It's not us hosts - honest - the forum software is wigging out, it appears.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/12/25 21:06:28
Rbh

Why does this useless forum's software keep eating my posts :-(

 
Fixed
2014/12/26 05:16:15
craigb

2014/12/26 19:25:00
Splat
Of course the forum software is going to flag it when people link to lottery sites..! Totally legit in my view. Not much different from viagra spam. Am I missing something? Did I miss the Microsoft lottery? Ta.
2014/12/26 21:56:46
SteveStrummerUK
CakeAlexS
Of course the forum software is going to flag it when people link to lottery sites..! Totally legit in my view. Not much different from viagra spam. Am I missing something? Did I miss the Microsoft lottery? Ta.



First off, there's no need for the sarcasm mush. There's a paying customer here with a genuine moan about how these forums are functioning. The first rule of business is that the customer is always right, you'd do well to remember that when you're representing Cakewalk in an official capacity.
 
I won ten quid on a completely genuine and legitimate free-to-enter UK postcode lottery site. As part of my post, I saw no harm whatsoever in including a link, should other UK members want to see how and where I won my tenner.
 
Let's be absolutely clear about this - I would never in a month of Sundays dream of littering this place with spam, or including any link to any site that I didn't have the utmost confidence in. To compare what I posted to "viagra spam" is lazy moderation. The super-sensitive and completely unfit-for-purpose forum filter may not be able to differentiate between a bona fide website and "viagra spam", but a human being tasked with performing that very job should be able to.
 
I wonder if it's occurred to anyone that, as usual, it's the completely honest, non-spamming regular members of these forums that always suffer when inadequate measures are taken to prevent arseholes from posting unwanted ads and other junk?
 
How on earth can it be right that, because of these so-called safeguards, regular members have to go through the rigmarole of contacting a host and asking that they then go and rescue their flagged posts from the forum recycling bin?
 
How is that somehow better than a few spam posts getting through?
 
If you're serious about preventing spam and deterring spammers, then simply moderate the forums properly; i.e. actively, as opposed to passively reacting to members requests to resurrect vanished posts. Or just make the criteria for joining the forum and posting here significantly stricter.
 
I'm sorry, but I don't buy the argument that we had some kind of a massive problem before these changes were made. A problem that's necessitated cranking up the forum defences so high as part of the solution.
 
I recall one of the Cakewalk guys saying he was previously tied up with deleting spam posts instead of doing something more productive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that why one or two staff members have effectively been replaced by a significantly larger number of hosts? Surely with the manpower that now exists to remove spam and follow up flagged posts, I can't see the need to have the filters set so aggressively.
 
Finally, if linking to a legitimate site in a post or having a YouTube video in one's signature is in contravention of the COC, then I have absolutely zero problem with any of my posts being removed. If not, then I believe I have every right to expect that they are not removed, either automatically or manually.
 
Ta.
 
 
 
 
2014/12/27 01:53:41
robert_e_bone
Valid points - we forum hosts have no control over the spam detection criteria, and if it were to able to change to better serve forum folks and still be reasonable, I would do my best to accommodate changes to shift things to better serve most folks.
 
This has been brought to the attention of the Cakewalk folks, and hopefully come Monday-Tuesday, some sort of input and/or changes will come from them on how to better balance things out.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/12/27 11:26:24
Splat
No sarcasm, I regularly get scam lottery emails every day, and I'm just saying it's just not surprising that you posting to a lottery site that it got flagged, I would expect any spam scanner to flag it otherwise it would not be doing its job. Also a host restored your links to a lottery site and they were just doing their job so there you go. Sorry for the inconviencience (again no sarcasm).

I'm sure there are legitimate viagra sites out there as well, the forum software however is not human or a medium and therefore will probably end up flagging those sites as well (but I can't understand why would people want to post to them?). Same goes for rolex watches and your long lost relative has a million dollars locked into his account.

Please be aware that these forums, as all forums that have been around for a while, are targetted all the time by automated spambots. The reason why you don't see it so much is because of this excellent software. These forums had a big and far more annoying spam issue before cakewalk sucessfully rolled out the current system. The spambots have not gone away the software just deletes them (or blocks them) before you get to see anything.

Cheers..
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